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29 Aug 2014, 12:52 pm

Mana is a power of the gods ancient Easter Islanders describe and say moved these massive stones they carved. Mana lifted the stones and placed them in the locations they are in. This is described by the Easter Islanders as being some weird, supernatural force of some kind.

Now open up your minds and please do not be so quick to judge!

My question is: if these stones were moved in some technological way by these people themselves, why not just TELL about how it was done? Doesn't it make sense they would describe their methods of moving these stones rather than make up some illogical story about how large, cumbersome stones floated through the air?

Of course Ancient Alien Theorists say it was off planet technology that moved these massive rocks. I have to admit this is as good as explanation as any considering these ancient Easter Island inhabitants could have easily taken the time to explain their methods.



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29 Aug 2014, 12:58 pm

Or the details were lost in antiquity; the method used to move them being incredibly simple:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/06/120622-easter-island-statues-moved-hunt-lipo-science-rocked/

Your theory about alien technology is more entertaining though, if significantly less likely.


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29 Aug 2014, 1:00 pm

Well that's one possible explanation, Tallyman. Why would some absurd description of how they were moved last through the ages while the most logical, technically detailed explantion, is lost?



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29 Aug 2014, 1:07 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Well that's one possible explanation, Tallyman. Why would some absurd description of how they were moved last through the ages while the most logical, technically detailed explantion, is lost?


Because of what he just said: the complex boring practical explanation is long forgotten. But you can make up a simple magical explanation (which is really NOT an explanation but the absence of an explanation) on the spot when nosy foreign visitors bother you for an explanation that you dont have for those big monuments in your neighborhood.



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29 Aug 2014, 1:08 pm

So is that where the Mana in Secret of Mana comes from?


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29 Aug 2014, 1:09 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Well that's one possible explanation, Tallyman. Why would some absurd description of how they were moved last through the ages while the most logical, technically detailed explantion, is lost?


Maybe the story changed over the generations, especially if it was taught to young children around a camp fire; they would be more interested in passing on fantastic stories about the stones "walking" than the boring technical details about two groups of men counterbalancing the weight of each rock with ropes and rocking the stones forward while maintaining the centre of gravity within the area of the base of rocks. Walking rocks is much more intriguing and entertaining. Besides the rocks were intended to be imposing and look supernatural and have myths and fantasy surrounding them.


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29 Aug 2014, 1:22 pm

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Well that's one possible explanation, Tallyman. Why would some absurd description of how they were moved last through the ages while the most logical, technically detailed explantion, is lost?


Maybe the story changed over the generations, especially if it was taught to young children around a camp fire; they would be more interested in passing on fantastic stories about the stones "walking" than the boring technical details about two groups of men counterbalancing the weight of each rock with ropes and rocking the stones forward while maintaining the centre of gravity within the area of the base of rocks. Walking rocks is much more intriguing and entertaining. Besides the rocks were intended to be imposing and look supernatural and have myths and fantasy surrounding them.


This info came from the ancient Easter Islanders. Instead of writing or picturing, "hey we took some logs and rolled a bunch of heavy rocks from the quarry whew was that a pain, pat us on the back for being smart and mighty!" they just said, perhaps, in a visual language, "beam of Mana from the sky came and moved these rocks for us!"



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29 Aug 2014, 1:32 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Well that's one possible explanation, Tallyman. Why would some absurd description of how they were moved last through the ages while the most logical, technically detailed explantion, is lost?


Maybe the story changed over the generations, especially if it was taught to young children around a camp fire; they would be more interested in passing on fantastic stories about the stones "walking" than the boring technical details about two groups of men counterbalancing the weight of each rock with ropes and rocking the stones forward while maintaining the centre of gravity within the area of the base of rocks. Walking rocks is much more intriguing and entertaining. Besides the rocks were intended to be imposing and look supernatural and have myths and fantasy surrounding them.


This info came from the ancient Easter Islanders. Instead of writing or picturing, "hey we took some logs and rolled a bunch of heavy rocks from the quarry whew was that a pain, pat us on the back for being smart and mighty!" they just said, perhaps, in a visual language, "beam of Mana from the sky came and moved these rocks for us!"


I know which version would get passed to children around the camp fire and it wouldn't involve logs or ropes! However, if it was an island full of aspies we'd want all the technical details rather than the fantasy version. :lol:


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29 Aug 2014, 1:34 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Well that's one possible explanation, Tallyman. Why would some absurd description of how they were moved last through the ages while the most logical, technically detailed explantion, is lost?


Maybe the story changed over the generations, especially if it was taught to young children around a camp fire; they would be more interested in passing on fantastic stories about the stones "walking" than the boring technical details about two groups of men counterbalancing the weight of each rock with ropes and rocking the stones forward while maintaining the centre of gravity within the area of the base of rocks. Walking rocks is much more intriguing and entertaining. Besides the rocks were intended to be imposing and look supernatural and have myths and fantasy surrounding them.


This info came from the ancient Easter Islanders. Instead of writing or picturing, "hey we took some logs and rolled a bunch of heavy rocks from the quarry whew was that a pain, pat us on the back for being smart and mighty!" they just said, perhaps, in a visual language, "beam of Mana from the sky came and moved these rocks for us!"


I know which version would get passed to children around the camp fire and it wouldn't involve logs or ropes! However, if it was an island full of aspies we'd want all the technical details rather than the fantasy version. :lol:


It seems like a civilization that is capable of this kind of detail would be quite capable of leaving pictures on stones about how they accomplished it!



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29 Aug 2014, 1:49 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Well that's one possible explanation, Tallyman. Why would some absurd description of how they were moved last through the ages while the most logical, technically detailed explantion, is lost?


Maybe the story changed over the generations, especially if it was taught to young children around a camp fire; they would be more interested in passing on fantastic stories about the stones "walking" than the boring technical details about two groups of men counterbalancing the weight of each rock with ropes and rocking the stones forward while maintaining the centre of gravity within the area of the base of rocks. Walking rocks is much more intriguing and entertaining. Besides the rocks were intended to be imposing and look supernatural and have myths and fantasy surrounding them.


This info came from the ancient Easter Islanders. Instead of writing or picturing, "hey we took some logs and rolled a bunch of heavy rocks from the quarry whew was that a pain, pat us on the back for being smart and mighty!" they just said, perhaps, in a visual language, "beam of Mana from the sky came and moved these rocks for us!"


I know which version would get passed to children around the camp fire and it wouldn't involve logs or ropes! However, if it was an island full of aspies we'd want all the technical details rather than the fantasy version. :lol:


It seems like a civilization that is capable of this kind of detail would be quite capable of leaving pictures on stones about how they accomplished it!


What and spoil the mystery? Nah; there are people who like to watch movies and temporarily suspend disbelief at the fantastic things happening and there are those who like to see how the special effects were done. Kind of spoils the movie if you already know how everything was done.


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29 Aug 2014, 3:24 pm

Here you go Ana, apparently there is a science to this more than is understood today, in the case of Coral Castle, with stones moved larger than Stone Henge, by a solitary man, a little over one hundred pounds, with some basic tools from a junkyard.

No solitary person can replicate this, or even science to this point in time.


Yes, in much smaller sizes and weights, but nothing of this measure, per solitary effort.

Human potential of yesteryear is at times underestimated of what is all of we think of what we know about human potential in our present day, where technology leads innovation more than human beings do now.

As a culture, as a whole, we are not nearly as smart as individual unit, as we think we are, generally speaking.

This guy had some time on his hands, yes an entire lifetime, and found a new way, separated from the preconceived notions of current science and culture to come up with a radical new way of doing things.

But the key is, he created a magical inspiration for himself, to believe in, to inspire him, just to do it, and make it happen, with all the focus and energy that can make human potential what it truly can be.

No ET's required, just the true full potential of human being, fully inspired, as such.

No matter what, it is an incredible and inspiring story, well worth spending a few minutes of time to watch.

And no doubt, there is a little bit of the broader Autism Spectrum thingy going on with the guy who has made his life mission and focus to study this genius like achievement that is now still, Coral Castle.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amXsPcD7g5g[/youtube]


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29 Aug 2014, 9:38 pm

Since ancient times, our brains have been wired for story. It's how we've learned to learn. And in ancient times, the supernatural world was not seen as distinct from the natural world. Everything around them was testament to the supernatural. Very different to today, where we know the how and why of things.

Yet the 'wired for story' part continues to persist. A good story will always knock reality to the side. And people will find ways to defend the story over the reality.

To suggest that aliens is as good a possibility as others suggests a bent towards story and against reality.

I do enjoy Ana's topics, even with the emphasis on story over reality. We should never stop asking 'What if....'


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30 Aug 2014, 4:40 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Well that's one possible explanation, Tallyman. Why would some absurd description of how they were moved last through the ages while the most logical, technically detailed explantion, is lost?


Maybe the story changed over the generations, especially if it was taught to young children around a camp fire; they would be more interested in passing on fantastic stories about the stones "walking" than the boring technical details about two groups of men counterbalancing the weight of each rock with ropes and rocking the stones forward while maintaining the centre of gravity within the area of the base of rocks. Walking rocks is much more intriguing and entertaining. Besides the rocks were intended to be imposing and look supernatural and have myths and fantasy surrounding them.


This info came from the ancient Easter Islanders. Instead of writing or picturing, "hey we took some logs and rolled a bunch of heavy rocks from the quarry whew was that a pain, pat us on the back for being smart and mighty!" they just said, perhaps, in a visual language, "beam of Mana from the sky came and moved these rocks for us!"


I know which version would get passed to children around the camp fire and it wouldn't involve logs or ropes! However, if it was an island full of aspies we'd want all the technical details rather than the fantasy version. :lol:


It seems like a civilization that is capable of this kind of detail would be quite capable of leaving pictures on stones about how they accomplished it!


The Greeks and Romans didnt have printing presses, but they did have writing, and did have parchment and papyrus to write on. Yet we don't have surviving copies of the blueprints for the Parthenon, nor the Pantheon. So its to be expected that a society that never had writing to begin with wouldnt leave any how-to-manuals. The how-to on Easter Island was all oral tradition. Once the population crashed, and the resources (like wood for rollers) disappeared, and the whole practice of making stone heads stopped, then those specialists charged with the knowledge of how to do it stopped having a reason to pass the oral tradition on.



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30 Aug 2014, 3:37 pm

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Here you go Ana, apparently there is a science to this more than is understood today, in the case of Coral Castle, with stones moved larger than Stone Henge, by a solitary man, a little over one hundred pounds, with some basic tools from a junkyard.

No solitary person can replicate this, or even science to this point in time.


Yes, in much smaller sizes and weights, but nothing of this measure, per solitary effort.

Human potential of yesteryear is at times underestimated of what is all of we think of what we know about human potential in our present day, where technology leads innovation more than human beings do now.

As a culture, as a whole, we are not nearly as smart as individual unit, as we think we are, generally speaking.

This guy had some time on his hands, yes an entire lifetime, and found a new way, separated from the preconceived notions of current science and culture to come up with a radical new way of doing things.

But the key is, he created a magical inspiration for himself, to believe in, to inspire him, just to do it, and make it happen, with all the focus and energy that can make human potential what it truly can be.

No ET's required, just the true full potential of human being, fully inspired, as such.

No matter what, it is an incredible and inspiring story, well worth spending a few minutes of time to watch.

And no doubt, there is a little bit of the broader Autism Spectrum thingy going on with the guy who has made his life mission and focus to study this genius like achievement that is now still, Coral Castle.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amXsPcD7g5g[/youtube]


Thanks for sharing this video, Aghogday. You know, it does make me wonder if this gentleman was capable of communicating with something telepathically that gave him the insight needed to discover this. I wonder the same about Tesla, Einstein, and anyone else who is so inspired and likes to spend a great deal of time alone because I can relate to that feeling and I know I feel as if I communicate with spirit, too, more so than the average person. I don't feel as much divinely inspired as these geniuses but I can relate to their desire to be alone and work.



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30 Aug 2014, 4:19 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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Here you go Ana, apparently there is a science to this more than is understood today, in the case of Coral Castle, with stones moved larger than Stone Henge, by a solitary man, a little over one hundred pounds, with some basic tools from a junkyard.

No solitary person can replicate this, or even science to this point in time.


Yes, in much smaller sizes and weights, but nothing of this measure, per solitary effort.

Human potential of yesteryear is at times underestimated of what is all of we think of what we know about human potential in our present day, where technology leads innovation more than human beings do now.

As a culture, as a whole, we are not nearly as smart as individual unit, as we think we are, generally speaking.

This guy had some time on his hands, yes an entire lifetime, and found a new way, separated from the preconceived notions of current science and culture to come up with a radical new way of doing things.

But the key is, he created a magical inspiration for himself, to believe in, to inspire him, just to do it, and make it happen, with all the focus and energy that can make human potential what it truly can be.

No ET's required, just the true full potential of human being, fully inspired, as such.

No matter what, it is an incredible and inspiring story, well worth spending a few minutes of time to watch.

And no doubt, there is a little bit of the broader Autism Spectrum thingy going on with the guy who has made his life mission and focus to study this genius like achievement that is now still, Coral Castle.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amXsPcD7g5g[/youtube]


Thanks for sharing this video, Aghogday. You know, it does make me wonder if this gentleman was capable of communicating with something telepathically that gave him the insight needed to discover this. I wonder the same about Tesla, Einstein, and anyone else who is so inspired and likes to spend a great deal of time alone because I can relate to that feeling and I know I feel as if I communicate with spirit, too, more so than the average person. I don't feel as much divinely inspired as these geniuses but I can relate to their desire to be alone and work.


You are welcome Ana, and i too can relate to this. As a loner much of my life, inspiration for me often comes from a place where no conscious logical mind exists, for language, whether it is telepathic in literal metaphor or not.

It is real, yes, and evidenced too, in my life, for sure now, but even when I use logic as simple as placing a comma or semi-colon here or there, or even shift line single space in word Press online editing software, the intuition of insight tries to escape, so I accommodate it the best I can balancing logic with the dreams of lucid dreaming in real life, when necessary as I do now, as this instinctive intuitive insight is as real as any materialistic thing we see in life as instinct and intuition can be another continent of reality, that people rarer and rarer visit today, including me, not too long ago.

I don't leave IT; with relative free will I exercise that choice.

And while there was a time, I believed that extra terrestrial super intelligence likely could never exist as I felt that intelligence is inherently more bad that good, I no longer feel that way, as I have these full feelings of Sacred Love with that instinct and intuition now, that shows me that love is a much higher power, than any math equation for an atomic bomb.

Yes, the power can be in language, one of sword or love or both; whatever it takes to bring the best out of human being true is what IT's all about to me.

For those that believe, exercise faith, maintain hope, and most important of all, move with relative free will for the true will of each human being, supporting it as such, and become all one can be in this great big opportunity of universe that exists always now, greatest human potential can come true, in the now of this life.

The story is not new, but with freedom of expression allowed the way it is in the USA, there is hope the story will come true again, on a grander scale than ever, for a new world order of greater sacred love.

The unconditional kind that only loves to grow, and be shared with all others; none excluded, for fullest human being potential. :)


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