Duty free society

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WARNING DISCLAIMER:

This post is as ridiculous as someone's idea of liberating the slaves in the ancient world.

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I believe that we need a discussion about how society should be ruled in terms of how many duties citizens should be obliged to obey.

In its core, I believe in a society that makes its citizens essentially free of duties, as such.

I believe that if people should have any duties, it should be because of their actions or choices in life that has a duty as its consequence. No duties, except negative duties (ie. "you SHALL NOT-duties") should be based purely off citizenship (ie. National Service or Conscription (which essentially is "you HAVE TO-duties")).

Example:

If you CHOOSE to join the army, you sign a contract and you get into the military. If you don't obey the rules, you face punishment, because you willingly took upon you the duty to defend your country. But your choice of defending your country is just that. Its a choice, and it has consequences.

No citizens should be obliged to do ANY kind of work for the state/govermment simply because they are born into that country in question.

But I want to go even further than that. I want to practically liberate people from the duty of paying taxes, unless they willingly take upon them a duty to pay a tax, for example if they willingly choose to earn money at a certain level. You earn money below that level, you pay no taxes. No VAT, nothing.

Actually, if so far possible, I believe there should actually be a NEGATIVE income Tax, where the government pays you for living. If you earn money, you negative tax is reduced, but only so much so that it pays off having a job.

When you get fully self-sustained (above a certain level of income) you get nothing from the state, and you pay nothing to the state. Go above that level, and you pay a tax to the state, and start paying a flat VAT and other tax-duties.

I believe that such a society is the only guarantee for true liberty.

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In addition, I also want to abolish duty to get an education, like Elementary School.

I believe that society/government should have no right whatsoever, to impose on other people's children, some facts, fiction or other stuff that can or can not be disputed.

The Government should obey the people. The people shoud only obey the government, to the extend of not imposing damage to other people or their property.

A child should have rights to say no, too. They furthermore should be encouraged to get an education and to learn stuff their own way and discussing stuff with other people.
But this should not be a duty. It should be a right.

Children should not be able to be forced into ridiculous rituals of learning the Bible or get circumcised or getting taught Darwin's theory of evolution for that matter. They should be free to make up their own opinions. However, they should not be set completely free. Their parents should have some rights above them, but only to the limit of protecting their children.

Sounds great. I'm all for it, but how does the government get the money in the first place?

Firstly, they get their money from people who willingly take up a job/occupation, earning money above a certain level, so they start paying taxes.
Everybody will get satisfied: People with a job gets more money in their hands than those without a job. And the government gets money to fund those without a job.

Secondly, I believe the government should be able to run industries, but only competing with foreign companies. Not homeland industries.

Who would want to work if everything is free?

I never talked about everything getting free.

You get a certain amount of money to live for.
If you want more than that, you have to work for it.

Would the the amount be enough to cover basic needs like food, shelter, healthcare, clothes, shoes, and other necessities?

Yes.

Even your internet access.

Even for small luxuries. But if you want to supply a family, have a car or a bigger house, you would need to work in order to get enough money.
You would even have to earn so much money that you start paying taxes.

I suggest a system based off one Negative Income Tax, that is given to everyone who earns no money.

When they earn money, they get their Negative Tax reduced. When they earn enough money to sustain themselves, they pay taxes.

In addition, there should be some additional welfare payments to those who cannot work because of chronic disability or illness.

Its essentially the same system that many countries already have. With the only exception that you don't HAVE to work in order to get the lowest unemployment benefits.
Actually I don't believe it would cost anything additional than the current system based off too much bureaucracy trying to activate those who recieve unemployment benefits. That costs money too, save that money and give it to the needy.

I guess the government could issue bonds and sell them to itself to finance it all. What about immigration? Any restrictions?

Immigrants, except for refugees, should not have these benefits of Negative Tax.

But isn't that racist?

No.

Racism is discrimination based off race (ethnicity, descendant origin etc.)

This law cares a sh* about your origins, as long as you hold a citizenship and reside in the country, you get the benefits.
Regardless of whether you are black, white, yellow, blue or green.

It's more like a nationalistic form of socialism, then?

Not really negative tax is it? In fact is not that different from the existing system with tax and benefits.

The only places that have anything like negative taxes are places like the gulf states, and that is becuase the have a small native population, and are larger indentured population and shedloads of oil.

They also have few responsibilities, it is possible to do nothing. They don't have to work.