Is adhd on the autistic spectrum now?

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13 Sep 2014, 10:49 am

I'm sort of confused.
You see this lady at my school who works in the learning support department, who works with autistic people quite a bit told me that adhd was now on the autistic spectrum along with tourettes and other disorders. Do you believe this? :?:



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13 Sep 2014, 10:51 am

None of those are on the spectrum, but due to some cross-over symptoms, many people with those disorders also are on the spectrum



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13 Sep 2014, 10:51 am

No. I wonder where she got that from.


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13 Sep 2014, 11:03 am

ADHD is quite the polar opposite of autism, although there are also people with both.



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13 Sep 2014, 11:08 am

qFox wrote:
ADHD is quite the polar opposite of autism, although there are also people with both.


Not really actually.
( I have adhd myself)
both people with aspergers and adhd appear to be very obsessive,
Have sensory issues
fidget
stim
I actually have had trouble making friends, and when in PE I am actually invisible and people do not really llike me that much,
but I do have two good best friends now.
But then again, I do believe I possible have aspergers too but I'm not sure.



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14 Sep 2014, 5:27 am

No. What has changed with the DSM 5 is that unlike before now is that you can be diagnosed with both


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14 Sep 2014, 6:45 am

I have ADHD AND Aspergers, so I doubt it.



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14 Sep 2014, 8:17 pm

TigerSlash1231 wrote:
I'm sort of confused.
You see this lady at my school who works in the learning support department, who works with autistic people quite a bit told me that adhd was now on the autistic spectrum along with tourettes and other disorders. Do you believe this? :?:


While ADD/ADHD and Tourettes are not 'on the autistic spectrum' they are considered closely related and are often comorbid with AS. So that lady at school is not too far of the mark, although not precisely correct.

For example, I'm pretty dyslexic, as are many Aspies. Overlapping conditions.


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14 Sep 2014, 8:22 pm

noooo i dont think so,


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14 Sep 2014, 8:48 pm

isnt there a famous book about how they coud be seen as being on the same spectrum [at least from one experts view],if am thinking of the right book it was called reweaving the autistic tapestry.
....yep just googled and got a good writeup of it and her views- http://info.emergencehealthnetwork.org/ ... 1319&cn=20

am personaly of the belief it isnt on the spectrum because it doesnt meet the triad of impairments,but obviously a lot of us do get diagnosed with ADHD because we either have it or our autism is confused with it-they are very similar in that they both have massive issues with executive dysfunction and hyperfocusing on interests to the point of impairing life in other ways.
was diagnosed with ADHD years ago but eventualy learned about classic autism enough to realise they were just adding on more clinical labels for impairments and behaviors already covered under the autism,a pyschologist agreed and undiagnosed it.


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14 Sep 2014, 9:10 pm

I've wondered about that relationship myself. Two family members(brothers) have had recent diagnosis of adhd, and spd(autism pending) fairly recently.



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14 Sep 2014, 9:20 pm

I am Autistic plus ADHD. We annoy EVERYONE. Oh well.



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14 Sep 2014, 10:12 pm

ADHD does not belong on the autism spectrum, but I think ADHD and autism could be considered as being under the same umbrella as neurodevelopmental disorders. I think they should both be classed as PDDs (pervasive developmental disorders) with ADHD being on one spectrum and autism/ASD on another. And this is just my personal opinion, but I'm inclined to think that Asperger's really exists within the overlap between those two spectrums.

They share some of the same genetic factors, and have some similar traits and symptoms, and tend to run in the same families and tend to be comorbid...but if you look at the actual diagnostic criteria, the disorders are quite different.

And the patterns of brain development and neural connectivity seen in ADHD are different from autism. ADHD is more of a developmental delay, that generally follows typical patterns of brain development but takes longer for the brain to mature...which doesn't necessarily mean that a person with ADHD ends up with a "normal" NT brain, most don't. But some people do grow out of the disorder, in other words their symptoms become subclinical as they get older. Autism has a more atypical pattern of brain development...it's not just a delay in development, it's a different path of development.

People who are diagnosed with ADHD can be very different from each other...but not quite in the same way that autistic people can have widely varying symptoms. With ADHD, the core symptoms are pretty consistent, but whatever is comorbid to ADHD can influence it and change the presentation. Lots of people with ADHD have a comorbid ASD, or autistic traits...but there are also many people with ADHD who would definitely not be on the autism spectrum. ADHD almost always has something else comorbid to it, but comorbid ADHD/autism is going to look very different than comorbid ADHD and psychopathy, or comorbid ADHD/NPD.