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27 Dec 2014, 3:38 am

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I will "belittle" that kind of journey because I've been there, done that. The difference seems to be that I was not corralled at the dead end. I never staked my credibility on fantastic fads.

And David, with that I'm done with you.
As you insist on holding onto your dismissive assumptions about people, and making that your main argument for everything, there is nothing more to say.
Davy is afraif of science he cannot grasp it or fathom scientific facts because they go against his beliefs of magical men and sky fairies!


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27 Dec 2014, 3:51 am

How do we know the flat Earth is round, and not rectangular, or even odd-shaped?



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27 Dec 2014, 6:03 am

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How do we know the flat Earth is round, and not rectangular, or even odd-shaped?

Some clever ancient Greek calculated the diameter of the Earth by watching sun shining down into wells that were a long way apart. I don't remember his name or the details of how he did it but the result he got was astonishingly close to present calculations.

Anyhow, I expect that if it was cubic instead of flat or round aeroplanes would bump into the corners sticking up.



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27 Dec 2014, 6:38 am

Oldavid wrote:
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How do we know the flat Earth is round, and not rectangular, or even odd-shaped?
Some clever ancient Greek calculated the diameter of the Earth by watching sun shining down into wells that were a long way apart. I don't remember his name or the details of how he did it but the result he got was astonishingly close to present calculations.

The exact same method could probably be used to calculate the properties of other geometrical premises. As such it doesn't tell us anything about the true shape of the planet.

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I expect that if it was cubic instead of flat or round aeroplanes would bump into the corners sticking up.

They would probably be able to avoid the corners the same way they avoid mountains.



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27 Dec 2014, 6:55 am

Oldavid wrote:
Some clever ancient Greek calculated the diameter of the Earth by watching sun shining down into wells that were a long way apart. I don't remember his name or the details of how he did it but the result he got was astonishingly close to present calculations.


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Presently, I can't review previous posts and reply to them in detail. Nothing new under the Sun. I have been consistently censored (posts removed or deleted because they were inconvenient or bothersome to the "official", or "establishment") sales-pitch.


Can you please tell me are you referring to this site when you say you've been censored? And if so, by whom?



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27 Dec 2014, 7:20 pm

Booyakasha wrote:
Oldavid wrote:
Some clever ancient Greek calculated the diameter of the Earth by watching sun shining down into wells that were a long way apart. I don't remember his name or the details of how he did it but the result he got was astonishingly close to present calculations.


Erathostenes

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Presently, I can't review previous posts and reply to them in detail. Nothing new under the Sun. I have been consistently censored (posts removed or deleted because they were inconvenient or bothersome to the "official", or "establishment") sales-pitch.


Can you please tell me are you referring to this site when you say you've been censored? And if so, by whom?


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28 Dec 2014, 2:45 am

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Can you please tell me are you referring to this site when you say you've been censored? And if so, by whom?

No, I can't as I've not kept records and I have no way of knowing even who could, let alone would, delete my posts. Having said that, it is possible that I've mucked up the send post process on this site and thus lost my effort into the aether. It is very disappointing to have spent considerable time and effort on a reply only to find it vanished.

I know for certain that on other sites I have presented a serious challenge to the status quo and seen it posted and then vanish.

It is not beyond possibility that some hacker is censoring what is allowed, I suppose.



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28 Dec 2014, 2:54 am

The thing is that I know for sure that not a single mod has been deleting your posts here lately - it can be checked in the logs, every time a post has been deleted it can be read there.

And there are too few mods here to actually have the will, time and energy to spend any additional time deleting, editing posts from posters they might consider offending - we either post a public warning or a private warning, or close the thread if things escalate too much.

So really I'm sorry your posts have been lost, but I assure you it's not our fault - we're usually too busy battling the spammers.



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28 Dec 2014, 3:32 am

Booyakasha wrote:
The thing is that I know for sure that not a single mod has been deleting your posts here lately - it can be checked in the logs, every time a post has been deleted it can be read there.

And there are too few mods here to actually have the will, time and energy to spend any additional time deleting, editing posts from posters they might consider offending - we either post a public warning or a private warning, or close the thread if things escalate too much.

So really I'm sorry your posts have been lost, but I assure you it's not our fault - we're usually too busy battling the spammers.
Fair enough. Thanks for that.



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28 Dec 2014, 11:39 am

Oldavid wrote:
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Can you please tell me are you referring to this site when you say you've been censored? And if so, by whom?

No, I can't as I've not kept records and I have no way of knowing even who could, let alone would, delete my posts. Having said that, it is possible that I've mucked up the send post process on this site and thus lost my effort into the aether. It is very disappointing to have spent considerable time and effort on a reply only to find it vanished.

I know for certain that on other sites I have presented a serious challenge to the status quo and seen it posted and then vanish.

It is not beyond possibility that some hacker is censoring what is allowed, I suppose.


I learned through experience that this site will let you write a post without logging in but if you attempt to post it, it disappears because you aren't logged in. That is likely what happened. I've done it.



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29 Dec 2014, 8:29 am

That's happened to me, too. It has nothing to do with what you wrote. It's a glitch in the system.



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29 Dec 2014, 4:10 pm

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I'm more interested in the time travellers.

The creationist time travellers went back in time to 1,000,000 BC and found nothing, just darkness, then went back to 4,000 BC and there was the world and the stars, and of course, the dinosaurs and they filmed everything on camera. Creationist time travellers prove creationism true, one thing though, the government took their time machine and is locked up in Area 51, talking about persecution of christians, but the time travellers took pictures and they are online.


Well, I just got the basic story to start a movement, anyone wants to join?



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29 Dec 2014, 5:14 pm

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I'm more interested in the time travellers.

The creationist time travellers went back in time to 1,000,000 BC and found nothing, just darkness, then went back to 4,000 BC and there was the world and the stars, and of course, the dinosaurs and they filmed everything on camera. Creationist time travellers prove creationism true, one thing though, the government took their time machine and is locked up in Area 51, talking about persecution of christians, but the time travellers took pictures and they are online.


Well, I just got the basic story to start a movement, anyone wants to join?


Sounds cool to me!


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30 Dec 2014, 2:01 pm

Oldavid wrote:
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Can you please tell me are you referring to this site when you say you've been censored? And if so, by whom?

No, I can't as I've not kept records and I have no way of knowing even who could, let alone would, delete my posts. Having said that, it is possible that I've mucked up the send post process on this site and thus lost my effort into the aether. It is very disappointing to have spent considerable time and effort on a reply only to find it vanished.


Before I post a longer message I always select the text and ctrl-c (copy) so that if the forum eats my post, I can just ctrl-v (paste) and try again.



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02 Jan 2015, 3:47 am

Earth is not flat it is round! Just like the moon is round just like the sun is round! Columbus has proven it and modern day NASA has proven it it is not flat neither is Earth only 6000 years old either!


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02 Jan 2015, 11:20 pm

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How do we know the flat Earth is round, and not rectangular, or even odd-shaped?

It has to be some sort of quadrilateral. The bible mentions the four corners of the earth in revelations 20:8.