Not being able to make friends/fit in on job

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16 Mar 2007, 9:15 pm

I used to have that problem. Now I don't care. When I go into the lunchroom, I usually go to a table by myself. Half the time, other co-workers will join me. Sometimes, I get to eat lunch by myself (with my book). I don't much care either way.


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18 Mar 2007, 9:25 am

During my late 20s, I just stopped caring about making friends, fitting in, and being sociable. I don’t know why. It was probably a combination of fatigue, a heavy workload, and the growing realization that I just do not relate well to other people. When I started working at my current job, I ate lunch with my co-workers for the first few days, just to make things look good. Then I quickly shifted to eating my lunch by myself, in my office, whilst surfing the web. I mostly read news web-sites, and finance/ macro-econ blogs. I find this to be a lot more interesting than anything my co-workers are ever talking about. My co-workers think I am unsociable, and I think they are superficial bores. C'est la vie.


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19 Mar 2007, 2:08 pm

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May I ask what you work with?


All I can say is that I work in the accounting department of a company that has something do with buildings. I can't say anymore or I won't be able to post comfortably in here about things on the job.



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19 Mar 2007, 2:12 pm

the-over-analyzed wrote:
dontwanttoknow, I read this post and wanted to respond to this. I just signed up for this site to post on here.


dontwanttoknow wrote:
Did anyone have the problem of wanting to fit in or make friends on the job but was unable to, and then resign yourself to this? It seems like every job I'm on I'm always the one left out...


I really relate to that since I feel like that at work all the time. In the past I've always ended up quitting jobs because I just couldn't deal with the social part of it. Too much trying to figure out what everybody is thinking and what their motives are.

(start rage)
Sometimes I think that we are the "normal" ones and everybody else are the "mental cases." They would have to be a bunch of nut cases to all go out in a group and leave one person sitting there by themselves without an invite.
(end rage)

Again thanks.


Thanks for your response! I'm sorry they think you're an a-hole at work because you don't seem like one in here! (Are you sure they really think that?) I quit my last job but it was after 12 years, and actually by that time I had a couple friends. But I wanted to quit a few years before that when there was a clique in my department.



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19 Mar 2007, 2:14 pm

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Since we do not always show that we are interested (body language) they may not be asking because you don't seem to want to be with them (in their eyes). NT's respond to body language in ways we do not. In their eyes we may seem to be not interested in doing things with them.

When this is the case, asking works wonders. They realize you are interested in going out and include you on future outings. If you have had very little dealings with them then there is unlikely to be other issues so it's probably a case of mis-judgement of your interests on their part.

Next time when you think their going out after work, ask casually if anything is going on later, you want to hit a bar (club etc.).


They kinda do know I want to go though. I mentioned to one person about it, and he even asks me to go to lunch with him & others sometimes, probably because he feels sorry for me. And I've always gone on things after work the times I have been invited---they know I would want to, they just don't want me to come any more.



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19 Mar 2007, 2:18 pm

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Today I just about stood up and said "Look! I'm AUTISTIC, of COURSE you think I am a ret*d" but I got a better idea. I calmed down and later had a cozy one on one with the woman who wouldn't play her game. I just told her I saw the eye roll and let her know I was autistic. She sorta looked at me and realized I was not kidding. I LOVE that part. It is like every idea they have ever had about autism melts down their faces and puddles up on the floor. I didn't get into high functioning Asperger's Syndrome yada yada yada cause it would just confuse the issue and anyway. . I made my point. I also told her that my supervisor knew and so did the supe across the way. And that her good buddy Lauri knew and so did Charise (all on our 'team') And THEN, I said I wasn't telling many people because the supervisors wanted to see which people treated me badly so they would know who to promote into the managers (that they need so desparately there and they promote from inside)

nothing like getting a little respect around the office.
and if it doesn't work?

well, I have looked for jobs before this when I DIDN'T take the bull by the horns, so what is the difference. I learned that from a black guy working in South Dakota with me at Gateway 2000 Inc. No one had been around a black guy and gave him the benefit of EVERYTHING in order to not be thought a bigot. I had worked around black guys and gals before so I just happen to mention he must be really getting over and he started chuckling and we became really good friends.
So now it is my turn.

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It's great you could let that woman know you're autistic and that the suprvisor knows and everything. I've never been diagnosed so can't let anyone know anything (in fact I've been told by a bunch of doctors I don't have AS, but I still think I do because of all the social problems.)



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20 Mar 2007, 11:58 am

I gave up worrying about it years ago. I don't think I gain anything socialising with my work colleagues, so I now just think "why bother?". It doesn't mean that I don't feel hurt when they all go out without me.

I'm in a difficult position anyway, because I'm a team manager and of course they sometimes want to distance themselves from the boss. However, some things that have happened have been pretty bad. Like that fact that I used to organise lunch trips out for my team & others in the department. When I didn't do it for a short while, they went out anyway, but didn't bother to tell me - now that was upsetting.

I did try to get them doing something again recently - there was a company staff quiz & I offered to organise a team from the department. I had one reply, and that was just someone saying they weren't around :roll: However if the same guy had organised it, they would have all come running - I just don't get it.

Even if I do get asked to anything, I just feel like it's being done out of sympathy, so what's the point?

Now I only socialise (rarely) with the other equivalent 5 team leaders in other departments. I organise the trips out, because no-one else thinks about it. They're all happy to go, because it's an opportunity to sound-off about the organisation & their staff in a relatively safe environment. Even so, I tend to sit as the quiet mouse in the corner and I am not often brought into the conversation.

To be honest, I'd just rather not be invited anywhere at all - it's far too much effort acting NT, even if I do go. I'd be much happier if I could shrug off this underlying niggly voice that keeps demanding that I get out there and do things. I think I'll just stick with the other team leaders - at least we've got something in common with our jobs, and so even I can talk to them occasionally :lol:


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20 Mar 2007, 12:16 pm

Anecdote time:

A guy asked a girl that we worked with if she'd like to go out for supper with him. She replied in the negative: "I have to wash my hair tonight."

I thought to myself "All night?", but kept silent.

To appease him, she said "why dont we just eat lunch together here at work?" She obviously didnt want to be seen in public with him..

To which he replied "No thanks, I'll eat with some who is clean."



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23 Mar 2007, 3:45 pm

Well, we've had another person leave our company (not because of me! lol...another situation entirely but we have had turnover). Anyway, I was friendly with this person but again we weren't close friends and I'll probably never see her again. This is the way it always is for me--at work or anywhere. It's why I don't try to make friends anymore...wherever I go, even if it's a group for something I'm interested in, it's the same thing. I never feel I have anything to say, and I never really get to know anyone, or if I get to know them from their general conversation they don't get to know me or want to hang around outside of whatever the meeting situation is. Unless they're someone who wants to be helpful and feel sorry for me.



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07 Apr 2007, 10:32 pm

This is so much the story of my life that the post itself took me by surprise since it's so typical for me.



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07 Apr 2007, 10:37 pm

My problem is that I just don't have anything to say. I can handle simple questions and answers, but I don't watch TV and have a terrible memory for stuff that I am not hyperfocused on. When I hear something I know something about, I am afraid to say anything because I fear that I'll sound dumb because I really don't have anything to say compared to anyone else, even when I feel very strongly about it.



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08 Apr 2007, 12:07 pm

hyperbolic wrote:
My problem is that I just don't have anything to say. I can handle simple questions and answers, but I don't watch TV and have a terrible memory for stuff that I am not hyperfocused on. When I hear something I know something about, I am afraid to say anything because I fear that I'll sound dumb because I really don't have anything to say compared to anyone else, even when I feel very strongly about it.


I have the same problem. I haven't traveled much either, and I don't have friends or family so I can't relate something I did over the weekend with people, or talk about something a husband or boyfriend/partner didd like the others can.



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23 Apr 2007, 2:06 am

I totally get what you mean. I wish I could help. But I can't. The only way I seem to be able to make friends is by living with people (ex housemates and roomates). Now that I don't live in group settings like that anymore, I've stopped making friends. I only have one friend in town. Its really hard. My therapist says I should find someone I identify with and ask them if they want to have coffee or something sometime. But how can I do that if I don't spend time with people or talk to them? And how on earth am I supposed to do that? Sometimes things can be lonely. I just try to not let it get to me and I focus on staying in touch with the few friends I do have.