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09 Mar 2015, 9:14 am

Who is the King of the U.S.A.?

Oh say can you see, --- that you are an oligarchy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0

I assume here that most Americans are bright enough to know that they live in an oligarchy and not a democracy.

Do you believe that redistribution of wealth from the top to the bottom of the U.S. socio economic demographic pyramid is a good idea or a bad idea?

Do you think the American oligarchy can be turned back into a real democracy where the poor are considered instead of ignored, if not abused?

Poverty is the worst form of Violence. Mahatma Gandhi

Do you think that we can persuade our owners to stop their violence against the poor?

Which of our oligarchs would you say is the King of the U.S.A.

Should the U.S. government find its balls and ask its King to stop abusing the poor?

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09 Mar 2015, 9:28 am

Rabble-rousing nonsense.


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09 Mar 2015, 9:32 am

The USA is a republic; it doesn't have a King.



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09 Mar 2015, 9:54 am

It had an Emperor, but he died without issue, so I don't know who sits on the throne now.



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09 Mar 2015, 10:01 am

David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinski or former U.S. President George H.W. Bush, take your pick.


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09 Mar 2015, 10:38 am

The king is dead! Long live the king!

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09 Mar 2015, 10:56 am

The_Walrus wrote:
The USA is a republic; it doesn't have a King.


When the vote is rigged and politicians are bought ad paid for by oligarchs, only the less astute will think they live in anything other than an oligarchy.

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09 Mar 2015, 11:09 am

GnosticBishop wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
The USA is a republic; it doesn't have a King.


When the vote is rigged and politicians are bought ad paid for by oligarchs, only the less astute will think they live in anything other than an oligarchy.

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09 Mar 2015, 12:00 pm

The American rebels should repent and swear their loyalty to the Queen, Lizzie. Maybe they will even be allowed to join the European Union.



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09 Mar 2015, 12:48 pm

Maybe it's coz I'm not an American but when I read the question only one name came to mind.



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09 Mar 2015, 3:03 pm

We had a king.

But he's left the building.



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09 Mar 2015, 5:14 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
The USA is a republic; it doesn't have a King.


Nicoli "The Devil" Machiavelli would disagree. He made it quite clear that the creation of a Republic was a smart move and effective tool for any dictator and would help cement and strengthen his power over the people while obscuring the blame.


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09 Mar 2015, 6:46 pm

We've got a big nest of courtiers/courtesans without a Bourbon.

I think this guy explained pretty well what's going on:

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And yes - our system bears the tell-tale signs of having some kind of mastermind but, a bit like The Cube (TM) it's something that a whole bunch of hands who can barely tell what the others are doing put together (or at least keep plastering the cracks in) in order to put food on their plates or in plenty of cases new yachts at their dock.

Some other great options we have:
1) Democratic socialism - China or Cuba style; truly great living.
2) Anarchist revolution which quickly shakes us up for a new beginning - likely Dominionist theocracy if no one else feels like committing troops to make us a new territory. Also a wonderful alternative.


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09 Mar 2015, 8:56 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
We've got a big nest of courtiers/courtesans without a Bourbon.

I think this guy explained pretty well what's going on:

Image

And yes - our system bears the tell-tale signs of having some kind of mastermind but, a bit like The Cube (TM) it's something that a whole bunch of hands who can barely tell what the others are doing put together (or at least keep plastering the cracks in) in order to put food on their plates or in plenty of cases new yachts at their dock.

Some other great options we have:
1) Democratic socialism - China or Cuba style; truly great living.
2) Anarchist revolution which quickly shakes us up for a new beginning - likely Dominionist theocracy if no one else feels like committing troops to make us a new territory. Also a wonderful alternative.


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09 Mar 2015, 9:37 pm

GnosticBishop wrote:
Who is the King of the U.S.A.?

Oh say can you see, --- that you are an oligarchy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0

I assume here that most Americans are bright enough to know that they live in an oligarchy and not a democracy.

Do you believe that redistribution of wealth from the top to the bottom of the U.S. socio economic demographic pyramid is a good idea or a bad idea?

Do you think the American oligarchy can be turned back into a real democracy where the poor are considered instead of ignored, if not abused?

Poverty is the worst form of Violence. Mahatma Gandhi

Do you think that we can persuade our owners to stop their violence against the poor?

Which of our oligarchs would you say is the King of the U.S.A.

Should the U.S. government find its balls and ask its King to stop abusing the poor?

Regards
DL


1. Republics are all oligarchies, and the USA is a Republic, albeit technically a Constitutional Republic, meaning the oligarchs themselves are elected & considered 'representatives' rather than 'rulers'.
2. The USA has no King, being a Constitutional Republic & not a Monarchy of any type.
3. In terms of oligarchies, which seem to still be in fashion in terms of governmental systems in highly developed countries these days, Parliamentary systems tend to do a better job than Constitutional Republics at actually representing the will of the people because they have multi-party coalition governments which can be dissolved & reformed if necessary at any point by their chosen leader & leaders who can be removed by a vote of no confidence by the government at any point, making them far more flexible & responsive to wishes of their people, in general.

So to answer your questions:

We have no King.

Continued upwards wealth redistribution is obviously unsustainable & therefore a bad thing.

We were never a democracy, and the broad economic uplift of the 1950s was not shared equally by all groups & was largely the result of broadly socialist policies including a top marginal tax rate of 90%, free higher education through the GI Bill, and massive government spending on public works, industry, and infrastructure. Therefore there is nothing to 'return' to, per se. What we should be doing is scrapping our flawed system & moving to either a Parliamentary or Direct Democracy type system.
Personally, I favor a Direct Democracy type system where the people propose, write, debate, and vote on legislation.
However, I realize that such a system is considered relatively radical & unproven.
So I would be okay with a switch to a Parliamentary system with binding referendums on national ballots.



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09 Mar 2015, 9:54 pm

Obama, he has a pen and phone and seems to have no problem using them! :roll: