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16 Mar 2015, 5:51 pm

Born 1947.

Created an acronym purely for amusement value: SOTS! (Seniors On The Spectrum). Makes me laugh anyway :)

Just realised that the younger ones are JOTS :lol:



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16 Mar 2015, 6:09 pm

1959 here, suspected in my 20s I might have something related to autism, but didn't hear a description of Asperger Syndrome or High Functioning Autism until my mid 40s (eureka!), not officially DXd until 49.

Of course, coming up in the 60s and 70s, nobody had any idea what AS was, but they sure recognized an oddball when they saw one. My parents recognized my social deficits early on, but thought they could cure them by forcing me into social situations. Needless to say, it didn't fix me, but it certainly highlighted the fact that there was something lacking and fundamentally unacceptable about me. :?

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16 Mar 2015, 6:49 pm

[email protected]: were you, or are you now, a deejay?



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16 Mar 2015, 6:59 pm

I was diagnosed a year ago at age 61…my brother is self-diagnosed, or I should say diagnosed by me and his friends…and I keep wondering about our dad! I think he may have had it too. He was not happy, had dyslexia, seemed narcissistic, sometimes would just not answer you…would talk on and on…I keep recognizing my own behavior in him, in retrospect. The thing is, he had very good eye contact. Not that I would really know because I hated looking into his eyes. But he would really stare in a challenging way, I think…and I realize that could be an Aspie trait as well.



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16 Mar 2015, 7:15 pm

Welcome to Wrong Planet. It's good to have another one of us :)



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16 Mar 2015, 7:18 pm

Koldune wrote:
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... and that children could be shamed into being less socially awkward.
I think the military has more or less the same mindset. First off, in my experience, they think that anyone can be trained as an effective manager, given time, and that anyone having trouble learning to be one is probably being lazy. Second, most of them think that there's no such thing as inability to communicate effectively, and that if communication isn't happening well, then someone is being deliberately negligent. Third, they think that the path to what they call "good judgment" should be obvious to anyone who is really paying attention, and that anyone who processes information differently from their norm, and thus comes up with solutions different from what they expect, is, again, being deliberately negligent.
I see you've met my father ... those were pretty much his stated philosophies.



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16 Mar 2015, 8:45 pm

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[email protected]: were you, or are you now, a deejay?


Yup, a little more than 30 years, starting in 1975. On-air (mostly middays and afternoons) and Copy Writer/Production Director. Retired now.

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The thing is, he had very good eye contact. Not that I would really know because I hated looking into his eyes. But he would really stare in a challenging way, I think…and I realize that could be an Aspie trait as well.


Eye contact can be learned, though personally, I find it excruciatingly uncomfortable at best, but it was especially important to my Dad's and Grandfather's generations. They saw it as a big measure of a man's honesty that he be able to look you in the eye. My parents drilled me on it incessantly as a boy - that and giving a firm handshake, instead of a "dead fish" as my Dad called a soft, limp hand.

What I learned to do was stare at a person's forehead, or look just over their shoulder. I still have to glance away from time to time, or I completely lose track of the conversation.


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16 Mar 2015, 9:59 pm

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[I see you've met my father ... those were pretty much his stated philosophies.


More likely a few of the same kind of psychological clone. "Common sense" was one of their favorite buzzwords, meaning following their same patterns of thought, reaching their same conclusions, and ridiculing anything else as unnatural and trouble-making. Admittedly, they weren't pastors like your father, but some of them might have wanted to be. Much like your resulting dislike of religion, I don't have much use for red-necked, right-wing conservativism. Too much of that looks too much like a bunch of bullies.


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16 Mar 2015, 10:14 pm

hi, alicekathleen.

i'm 58 and have had enough life experience for several lives.



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17 Mar 2015, 4:03 am

1959 here, suspected in my 20s I might have something related to autism, but didn't hear a description of Asperger Syndrome or High Functioning Autism until my mid 40s (eureka!), not officially DXd until 49.

Of course, coming up in the 60s and 70s, nobody had any idea what AS was, but they sure recognized an oddball when they saw one. My parents recognized my social deficits early on, but thought they could cure them by forcing me into social situations. Needless to say, it didn't fix me, but it certainly highlighted the fact that there was something lacking and fundamentally unacceptable about me. :?

Back to WP after a hiatus. :salut:


Hey Willard, what's with the new username? Did you have a problem logging into your old account like some other people? If so, it's probably a good idea to let the mods know that you're not using a sock account.



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17 Mar 2015, 4:15 am

hi, I might not be a senior, yet, nor an aspie, maybe
rather being always on the wrong island, by the time I get there, everybody's gone,
as if there were secret agreements i didn't know about
and when asking what happened, you get that look:' shut up we're in the middle of something important!'



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17 Mar 2015, 6:09 am

Koldune wrote:
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[I see you've met my father ... those were pretty much his stated philosophies.
More likely a few of the same kind of psychological clone. "Common sense" was one of their favorite buzzwords, meaning following their same patterns of thought, reaching their same conclusions, and ridiculing anything else as unnatural and trouble-making. Admittedly, they weren't pastors like your father, but some of them might have wanted to be. Much like your resulting dislike of religion, I don't have much use for red-necked, right-wing conservativism. Too much of that looks too much like a bunch of bullies.
My father was not a pastor, and I am not an atheist.



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17 Mar 2015, 1:48 pm

Another 1957 baby. Thrown out of my public elementary school after 2nd grade because the teachers could not reach me. Private school and play therapy next two years. No diagnosis is remembered. When the money ran out back to public school and bullying intensely the next 3 or 4 years. Eased the next few years but got intense the first 2 years of college. For two straight days a car drove right at at me and swerved away at the last second. When I complained it was made quite clear I was crazy and I would be thrown out if my complaints continued. For the last two years of college and through the 1980's near 180 degree turnaround. Got along with my dormmates and work colleagues and raises every 6 months. As far as I was concerned I was mature and the nightmare young years were history. Besides my attitude was "real men" don't see shrinks. Of course looking back there were obvious signs. Then began a steady but slow career decline. In the late 1990's my boss told me I might be mildly autistic and that I did not make eye contact and people would think that was rude. I thought he was bullying me and he was the one with quirks. He did help me with eye contact. But I went along with it because he was the one signing my paycheck. By 2005 my career was effectively over. Around that time I noticed similarities between me and the Temperance Bones character on TV. I read she has Aspergers traits and the traits were like mine. But at the time it never got past the mild curiosity stage of reading a few articles. My sister who works with special needs kids including autistics figured it out and she and my brother staged an intervention which consisted visiting a financial adviser who told me not only was I in danger going broke myself but taking my family down with me.

That ended up with the diagnoses on the date you see in my signature below. The reactions relief, it all makes sense now, common to many middle age and senior who recognize they are autistic followed.

In got myself into vocational rehab and got to the point of getting a couple of interviews when I suffered a stroke on Super Bowl weekend this year. It left my Autistic mind intact but left me with arm and leg weakness on my dominant side so it is back to square one and way to much change for my liking


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17 Mar 2015, 3:36 pm

SOTS rock!



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17 Mar 2015, 5:01 pm

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Raised by a father who seemed to believe that any learning disabilities could be beaten out of a child, and that children could be shamed into being less socially awkward.

Observation: Pastors and preachers would rather side with the bullies in their congregation than admit that even one of their congregants might have trouble fitting in.

I hate religion.

My Father was not a pastor, and I am not a atheist.


Okay. I can see how your father and the "pastors and preachers" mentioned above are different people. Your comment about hating religion doesn't make you an atheist, either. All I said was that I have a dislike for right-wing conservativism that possibly echoes your stated dislike of religion. I apologize if that sounded like I was calling you something that you don't consider true about yourself. I had no intention of upsetting you.


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