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11 Jun 2015, 3:34 pm

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let's say I wanted to be a house cleaner in a predominantly Latino neighborhood


Then you'd be taking work from Latinos who probably need it a lot more than you do. This is a form of racism.



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11 Jun 2015, 3:37 pm

Duh. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if white males are the most oppressed by white males, considering the demography of feminism and most countries.


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12 Jun 2015, 5:37 pm

Barchan wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
let's say I wanted to be a house cleaner in a predominantly Latino neighborhood


Then you'd be taking work from Latinos who probably need it a lot more than you do. This is a form of racism.


So white males have less need of a job than minorities? Don't think so, everyone needs some source of income. Not every white male is the CEO of a fortune 500, the vast majority make low wages or have high unemployment in the current economy just like every other demographic out there. I agree with you that in the US things are certainly weighted towards white males and that needs to change, but I won't go so far as to say they're the only group that can't suffer from racism or sexism-- any group can suffer from those two forces depending on the situation, even white males. Very few things are black and white, racism and sexism exist in various shades of grey just like everything else.

The problem with identity politics is that the issues themselves lose moral ground to the influence of the demographics in question. If you're really against racism and sexism, and not just about identity politics, you need to be consistent and fight against racism and sexism wherever it exists, not just where it suits you.



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12 Jun 2015, 8:55 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
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I keep hearing from feminists how bad they have in the west.....as we all know, the feminists are as strongest in the west....

Does white males oppress their women more than other males do?


I don't see how females of the west have it so horrid, unless they are exploited underclass immigrant women. I mean just the impression I get in my limited amount of social interactions/observation....there are lots of women who will throw a guy away just like a used tampon when they are done with him if you get what I mean. Are there guys who use women? yes...are there women who use guys, yes...except the latter does not get acknowledged by a lot of in your face feminists. And then I hear males make higher wages on average which sounds unfair, but then there are quite a few jobs where females are much more likely to be hired than males which also sounds unfair right? Also as an adolecent/teen I felt more pressure from adult women and my female peers to conform to female gender stereotypes/image than from guys.

And what do you mean white males opressing 'their' women...like other white women? I myself am northern european and native american decent so cannot really speak for entirely 'white' women but that is my experience at least...though at first glance I look more white than native.


I think it's mostly the abortion issue. When people talk about the "war on women", it's almost exclusively about that one issue.


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09 Jun 2018, 2:47 pm

Depends remember it's not only white males that are oppressing women.



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15 Jun 2018, 10:39 am

"We don't like what we have, we want something else"
Feminism creates the idea that women deserve better. Since feminism is a western invention, and western countries clearly consist of mostly white men, then it is no wonder feminism makes women hate their men and make them want to look somewhere else for potentially better men.
There are white men who are still great for their women though. But according to feminism, they're either rare or non-existent



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15 Jun 2018, 10:49 am

Individual and groups of women are oppressed by individial and groups of men.


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15 Jun 2018, 11:02 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Individual and groups of women are oppressed by individial and groups of men.


Don't forget that women can also be oppressive towards men.
I've met a select few who do, who exploit men for that woman's own personal ends.
So no, genders do not matter. If you think they do, you may one day fall victim towards a woman who uses sexuality for gains



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15 Jun 2018, 2:03 pm

I am not oppressed by white men.

I believe most women living in Western countries are not "oppressed."


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