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Should it be banned?
Yes - it is a symbol of oppression 18%  18%  [ 3 ]
Yes for government, but it should still be allowed for private individuals to fly 12%  12%  [ 2 ]
No - it is the symbol of the country 71%  71%  [ 12 ]
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Magneto
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25 Jun 2015, 5:55 am

Given the historical connections between the American flag and the oppression of Native Americans and the enslavement of Africans, should the American flag be banned from display on government buildings? Furthermore, should private individuals be prevented from flying the flag, due to it's status as a symbol of hate?


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25 Jun 2015, 6:27 am

Magneto wrote:
Furthermore, should private individuals be prevented from flying the flag, due to it's status as a symbol of hate?


uhh, I'm pretty sure it doesn't have that "status" in the first place. Especially since actual hate-groups often have rituals for burning that same flag.



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25 Jun 2015, 6:37 am

Voted 1 because caprice.



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25 Jun 2015, 7:29 am

Magneto wrote:
Given the historical connections between the American flag and the oppression of Native Americans and the enslavement of Africans, should the American flag be banned from display on government buildings? Furthermore, should private individuals be prevented from flying the flag, due to it's status as a symbol of hate?



It seems like history really is about winners and losers, where the winners are not held to the same standard of conduct. The US government has worked as an oppressive agent in the past while condemning enemies for crimes against humanity. The one event that rocketed the civil rights movement was World War ii and what happened during the holocaust and this was subsequent to the Indian Removal Act which was the stripping of Indian land, in exchange for land elsewhere. See, what happened is these epidemics of disease harmed the Native American populations so the government, and I am not supporting what they chose to do btw, decided the tribes didn't need their traditional land holdings. They were too large. So what the government wanted to do was give them smaller parcels of land.

Maybe it is something Americans need to consider when looking at the flag.

Yes, the government, at times, tries to help Native Americans but at the same time, has done a lot of harm as well, especially when they insisted Indians give up their culture, language and way of life by sending their kids to boarding schools where they learned European/ protestant culture and were required to speak English and the US flag does represent this type of oppression on and off during history. Even now, Native Americans explore their lost culture you see disgruntled folk trying to erode this process by saying they aren't blending in or assimilating but they have done a lot of fighting in a variety of wars for the US.



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25 Jun 2015, 7:39 am

Nah

But if you want the CSA one banned, you have to include the good old Stars and Stripes; far more oppression and murder have been done in the name of that one. Or, you're a hypocrite.



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25 Jun 2015, 10:00 am

Our country makes mistakes. But I love my country. It's like a prodigal child, mixed in with a parent figure.



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25 Jun 2015, 10:18 am

Either you ban all flags or none of them, there is skeletons in all our closets and its not as this stuff is in the past for this country since it continues till this day. I don't think there should be any laws protecting the flag or that we should be required the display it tho, I feel like people can make that decision themselves.



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25 Jun 2015, 1:20 pm

Well, I don't have a problem with banning the flag. It's kind of foolish to wave a flag around in honor of your country. It's a piece of land. It's not something to be proud of.



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25 Jun 2015, 1:22 pm

Magneto wrote:
Given the historical connections between the American flag and the oppression of Native Americans and the enslavement of Africans, should the American flag be banned from display on government buildings? Furthermore, should private individuals be prevented from flying the flag, due to it's status as a symbol of hate?
can you please quote the articles in the US constitution that allow enslaving AmerIndians?



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25 Jun 2015, 1:46 pm



The only person who will possibly suggest
that THE AMERICAN FLAG be banned
is a person who does not value
AND UNDERSTAND FREEDOM.

There are no perfect freedoms.

There is no freedom withOUT cost.

Freedom is dirty.

Freedom is messy.

Freedom comes with many mistakes.

But never the less, go to a Muslim country
and live a while and come back here and
see what the flag means;
if then, it means nothing;
one is never free
here, to begin with.

AND TO be clear, I realize this is just a rhetorical question in response to
banning the Confederate Flag, where black folks are not free and slaves; but

I live in a country that allows me to do whatever the F I wanna do; how cool is that;

Super cool and flourishing in red, white, and blue.

The laws of the country ranging from local to state to federal
work for me; 'cause I am smart enough in both logic and
street smarts to make the laws work for me.

Some folks choose not to be free
in free countries like the U.S.;
and THAT
IS
Freedom too;
just like WILL and Choice;
no choice and WILL
IS
WILL AND CHOICE,
in free countries
like the U.S.,
at least;
so, I fly my flag of
Red, White, and Blue
freely wherever I go
with or without
a material
flag;
as the material
flag allows me to
do JUST THAT..:)

AND YES, my style of freedom
literally 'BLOWS the pants and minds
off' of some folks; but I exercise it
ALL THE WAY; and truly that is
the best way to honor all of
the flesh and blood warriors
of freedom I stand upon ON
BONES OF
FREE FLESH
AND
BLOOD..:)


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25 Jun 2015, 2:55 pm

There's a huge difference between a symbol that represents something that was founded with laudable goals and ideals which has been repeatedly subverted for horrible things,

and a symbol that represents white supremacy, according to the people who created it.



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25 Jun 2015, 8:41 pm

Fugu wrote:
can you please quote the articles in the US constitution that allow enslaving AmerIndians?


It's next to the line where it talks about killing them and taking their land.



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25 Jun 2015, 8:42 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
and a symbol that represents white supremacy, according to the people who created it.


So is the Stars and Stripes.



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25 Jun 2015, 9:17 pm

Dillogic wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
and a symbol that represents white supremacy, according to the people who created it.


So is the Stars and Stripes.


Citation please.



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25 Jun 2015, 9:22 pm

Dillogic wrote:
Fugu wrote:
can you please quote the articles in the US constitution that allow enslaving AmerIndians?


It's next to the line where it talks about killing them and taking their land.
that was my point, there's no such line in the american constitution, there are 3 in the confed constitution about slavery.