Autism rates explode in Asia after introducing western vacci
04 Jul 2015, 12:12 pm
YourNewsWire.com: "Autism rates explode in Asia after introducing western vaccines" (July 3, 2015)
( http://www.yournewswire.com/autism-rate ... n-vaccines )
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04 Jul 2015, 12:51 pm
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04 Jul 2015, 12:57 pm
Funny. Now, what is your reply to the linked-citation reference that "Saigon Tiep Thi newspaper Wednesday quoted a study from the National Hospital of Pediatrics as saying that the number of children diagnosed with autism at the Hanoi-based hospital's Physiotherapy Department in 2007 was 50 times higher than in 2000. In a Hanoi district, 10 percent of 733 disabled children had the developmental disorder, according to the study reported at a conference on care and education for autistic children organized in the capital city on Tuesday. Meanwhile, in Ho Chi Minh City, 324 autistic children received treatment at local hospitals in 2008, a 160-fold increase from just two in 2000" ( http://www.thanhniennews.com/health/aut ... -3207.html )?
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04 Jul 2015, 1:12 pm
Really, you're going to blame going from 2 to 324 on vaccines? Jesus. You guys're getting desperate.
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04 Jul 2015, 1:16 pm
Considering various Asian countries and their absolute love of not sharing information, compounded with the lack of strict regulations and the now growing education on autism, as well as possibility of parents having been afraid of the diagnosis...
It's really hard to say, but I'm still going with the many studies that have shown vaccines are not linked to autism.
All I can think is stupid stupid stupid!
And no, vaccines do not cause it. This is a stupid myth perpetuated by ignorant people and religious fanatics.
Look at what some of these people consider autism to be; screaming , seizing, violent, walking dead. In reality, the ones who are as such are in the minority, yet that's what people are thinking the autism numbers are representing, not those who are able to "pass" for NT.
This bias in itself skews perspectives for people who are just learning about autism, making it easy to jump to conclusions based in fear rather than science.
Is it possible for vaccines to help trigger autism? It is possible, but until we can get an unbiased scientific study on it, I am not going to listen to fear mongering people who view us as monsters who need to be eradicated.
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04 Jul 2015, 1:19 pm
Shall we start with the response from Dr. Do Thuy Lan, who is quoted within the same article?
At some clinics, doctors with a lack of experience and knowledge have mistaken autism for intellectual disabilities, she said.
In Hanoi, despite the capital's advanced clinics, not many doctors are knowledgeable about the disorder and can give an accurate diagnosis, she cited.
In fact, they are using a total of 12 different autism assessment tools imported from other countries like Australia, Japan, and the U.S. without translating them into Vietnamese, said Dr. Le Van Tac, director of the Research Center of Special Education.
This led to different centers performing different tests and drawing different conclusions on the same children, worrying parents who want to get second opinions on the matter.
And the list of "experts" from the conference:
From the other article cited in the report, entitled New study finds autism rates in South Korea now at 1 in 38 children:
Some rather glaring omissions from a site that features "News. Truth. UNFILTERED." in the banner. Though, to be fair to them, they did cite the sources they misrepresented.
04 Jul 2015, 1:28 pm
Well, I amn't certain, of course, but, should I put you down as opposing the idea, or not?
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04 Jul 2015, 2:00 pm
Shall we start with the response from Dr. Do Thuy Lan, who is quoted within the same article?
At some clinics, doctors with a lack of experience and knowledge have mistaken autism for intellectual disabilities, she said.
In Hanoi, despite the capital's advanced clinics, not many doctors are knowledgeable about the disorder and can give an accurate diagnosis, she cited.
In fact, they are using a total of 12 different autism assessment tools imported from other countries like Australia, Japan, and the U.S. without translating them into Vietnamese, said Dr. Le Van Tac, director of the Research Center of Special Education.
This led to different centers performing different tests and drawing different conclusions on the same children, worrying parents who want to get second opinions on the matter.
And the list of "experts" from the conference:
From the other article cited in the report, entitled New study finds autism rates in South Korea now at 1 in 38 children:
Some rather glaring omissions from a site that features "News. Truth. UNFILTERED." in the banner. Though, to be fair to them, they did cite the sources they misrepresented.
Good detective work! I hadn't done any yet, but the whole going from 2 to 324 means vaccines stuff was really suspect, considering both the fact the number went from near nothing to a number that didn't seem that large for a major urban center and the near unanimity of studies (particularly the well-designed studies with very high N's) showing zero connection. If you think about it, there's a good chance the number in 2000 could have been 0. What percentage increase is going from 0 to 324? It's UNDEFINED. When you think about it, you can't really expect all that much from the anti-vaxxers. IMO, their coninued obsession over this issue is a waste of their and everybody else's time.
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05 Jul 2015, 1:14 am
A what?
A logical fallacy wherein one assumes that a thing happening after another thing means that the first thing caused the second. For instance, I shut down my computer, and then the sun set. Therefore, the sun set because I turned off my computer.
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05 Jul 2015, 2:01 am
Most Asian countries purposely skew statistics on health, education and economics.
How many people in Japan and South Korea suffer from mental health issues? We don't know because the those societies discourage you from seeking medical help for it and their governments don't legally enforce and train the doctors in it.
It's not considered a real disease/disorder and it's widely considered to be considered the result of laziness and other stuff.
How many people in SE Asia have actual autism, mental health, and other disabilities? Umm no one knows for sure because doctors don't test for it unless the family and/or person demands it.
You literally are considered a disgrace, dishonorable, and a burden on your family and the nation, to have any disabilities including those from working.
China, Russia (yes they are mostly in Asia), Mongolia, The Middle East (it is part of Asia mostly), the former USSR Asian states, and few others purposely skew their official numbers on everything including health, education and economics to fit the political ideology.
In Asia if you have any form of disability and/or unable to bring honor to your family, you are expected to take your life.
Top list of countries by suicide rate (June 2015):
1) Guyana (South America)
2) South Korea (SE Asia)
3) Sri Lanka (Asia)
4) Lithuania (Eastern EU)
5)Suriname (South America)
6)Mozambique (Africa)
7)Tanzania (Africa)/Nepal (Asia)
9)Kazakhstan (Asia)
10)Burundi (Africa)
11) India (Asia)
12)South Sudan (Africa)
13) Turkmenistan (Asia)
14) Russia (Europe/Asia)/Uganda (Africa)
16) Hungary (Central EU)
17) Japan (Asia)
18) Belarus (Eastern Europe)
19) Zimbabwe (Africa)
20) Bhutan (Asia)
Most of Eastern Europe and developing and developed parts of Asia are in the top 50
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47) France (Western EU)
50) U.S.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... icide_rate
Obviously China skews their data, thus being lower on the list.
Though Japan is gradually getting better with disability and mental health acceptance while trying to tackle the issues regarding suicide, thus is lowering the suicide rate.
With that said the rest of Asia is far behind Japan in these regards...
So, no it's not vaccines causing health issues in Asia.
It's the way things are done in Asia and subsequently misreported purposely!
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05 Jul 2015, 2:26 am
There is no evidence that vaccines cause Autism. It is a conspiracy theory.
Like most conspiracy theories, many people become more convinced in their validity when people debunk them. That is one reason why, despite the fact that all of the empirical evidence refutes the vaccination idea, the conspiracy continues to have supporters.
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