Obsessions of a Sexual Nature in Teenage ASD Son

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Linda123
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07 Jul 2015, 9:39 pm

Hello, my name is Linda and I am 36, I am here for some help on what is hopefully not too uncomfortable an issue - puberty. And some unusual aspects coming from it. I do apologize for the... odd... nature of this first inquiry. I don't know if anyone has any insight on anything similar but figured I would try.

I am the mother of a fourteen year old boy with relatively high-functioning autism spectrum disorder who has recently, following puberty, developed an unhealthily prevalent and pronounced sexual interest in feet - men's feet, usually, and only feet, almost exclusively. It's become concerning - not because of its nature, I find that, well, very unusual but harmless - but because it seems to have become an obsession, and one which causes him trouble as he is unable to realize other people do not exist simply so he can enjoy their feet. I am interested in advice on how to best go about dealing with it before it becomes even more problematic.

It has been going on for the past six months or so, but not to the extreme extent it has recently taken on. Our son has been sexually mature for more than a year, but for some time, he appeared to fail to recognize any aspect of the human body as a sexual stimuli as a typical human adolescent male would do. He is not entirely aloof, as some children with ASD are, but he is also not especially social. His issues have always lied most with understanding social boundaries than anything. He is intelligent, a gifted reader, insatiably curious, and generally able to handle his own emotions well. However, socially, he is rather a mess. He struggles with conversation or communicating his needs, never makes eye contact, the usual.

But back on the subject at hand - by this age, we were aware he was.. producing, as happens past puberty, though either through nocturnal emissions or intentional releases we weren't aware, as from a younger age, he'd been instructed, with apparent success, that while this sort of thing was normal and okay, it could be done only in the privacy of one's one room. However, ever since this feet thing developed - it appeared really quite suddenly - while he won't actively engage sexually in a public space, merely seeing feet - especially bare feet or in sandals - sends him into almost a daze, where he becomes dead to the world and can see, nor think about, nothing else, except touching them. He does not snap from it unless forcibly removed from the situation or if the stimulation is removed from his own sight, and even afterwards he may talk about it for the rest of the day - it's the only thing he seems to be able to talk about! He has asked his father, who's feet he is excited by as much as most any male's - to bring his feet into his room so he can see them when he does his private business, which is obviously a request always refused - which then can sometimes upset him so much as to make him cry. He is sexually aroused by seeing feet, and once when this obsession began asked a male friend of his father's, wearing sandals, to come into his room to see something which was only a ruse so that he could start to masturbate to them (he only knows he can do this only in his room - he can't grasp that it should only be done when he is alone in it). When he is kept from acting out his desires, he becomes angry. It has been the only issue to ever get him to question "why". Why couldn't he do what he wanted. He wasn't able to understand any variation of answer, that it makes other people uncomfortable. All he could understand was that he was constantly stimulated and always being kept from relieving himself as biology intended except when alone and with then, when he had nothing to excite him. I believe this issue is making him spiteful to me and his father, for preventing him doing what he wants, and withdrawn as a whole.

For whatever reason he has no interest in women's feet, nor children's - thank goodness. He doesn't seem to identify at all as homosexual, either - he knows well what the word means. He seems simply to enjoy feet and that's it, and finds something preferable about those of males vs. females.

His obsession can sometimes take up pretty much all he thinks of for days at a time. He seems to struggle to relieve his sexual tension with no stimulus in his room and it's obvious his obsession is strongest when he's hormonally built-up than right after he's taken care of his needs. Since this developed, he's lost much of his previously prevalent positive interests, such as reading and gardening. And things once enjoyable have become impossible to do with him - he can no longer visit the beach, for obvious reasons, and even shopping centers in the summer season are minefields of guys in sandals...

How can I possibly try and distract him from this, or take it down to a manageable level again, when it seems all he can think of anymore?



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07 Jul 2015, 9:49 pm

This is kind of a stupid way to live.
Sex is used for reproduction, and sometimes pleasure, but you can't force him to be something that he isn't aware of. In all honesty, if he was like that, he is more prone to find himself in worse activities in the future. You also shouldn't have this expectation for your son, because asexuality is a choice. It's also a poor way for any human to live.


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07 Jul 2015, 9:57 pm

Well I don't think you can do anything to fix it. Except if you're gonna get him an electric collar or a baton because of his sexual preferences. :hmph:



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07 Jul 2015, 10:48 pm

Perhaps this is a case where professional intervention by a therapist specializing in sexual matters could better happen sooner rather than later.



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07 Jul 2015, 11:02 pm

what about encouraging him to use pictures for his relief purposes?



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08 Jul 2015, 12:33 am

A specialist is being considered. We do not want to remove his sexuality, not at all, and worry that a specialist may try to go a route like that. However, at this age, and in these circumstances, it needs in some way to be managed, because there is no proper outlet available to him at this time for it. I'm really almost happy it's something like it is, it seems relatively benign, if atypical, and relatively harmless.

I've also considered providing him with some 'reading material' suited to his interest. I feel of all things that might help most for him. However, my husband - while not outwardly saying so - is more uncomfortable with the entire issue than me and opposes the idea on the basis of thinking if ignored, it's more likely to go away. He doesn't want to encourage it more than absolutely necessary - however, I don't know if I feel that is our best option.



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08 Jul 2015, 7:25 am

Shouldn't it have gone away already if ignoring worked?
I don't think your son could get "encouraged".
The pleasure he gets from it doesn't have anything to do with getting attention isn't it?



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08 Jul 2015, 11:58 am

Have you talked to him about consent? Have you explained what constitutes sexual harassment? Does he know that it's illegal to touch another person's body without their permission? Has he been told that it's illegal for an adult to engage sexually with a minor in any way?

My advice is to talk to him about feet the same way you would talk about breasts or genitalia, because that's the way he sees them.



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08 Jul 2015, 12:16 pm

cathylynn wrote:
what about encouraging him to use pictures for his relief purposes?


That is sort of what I was thinking.


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08 Jul 2015, 1:48 pm

I agree with both Cathylynn and YippySkippy.

He needs to understand boundaries, but also have an acceptable outlet for his interest. I understand that your husband is uncomfortable with the subject, but he should understand that giving him sandal catalogs (or whatever) is preferable than inviting people into his bedroom so he can look at their feet while he masturbates.

I think it will be easier to teach him boundaries if there is something you can tell him he can do instead, if that makes sense. It is not like you can make people hide their feet and even if his reading material promotes additional perseveration, I think he needs to learn to manage it.



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08 Jul 2015, 2:25 pm

Why not tell him to settle for his own feet?



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08 Jul 2015, 8:31 pm

Again, I'm going to recommend the book "A Five Is Against The Law." It is written for children reaching puberty who may not have good reading skills, so the language is simple, but the ideas about consent are explained very, very clearly. While feet in specific are not covered, there is a section about a boy who likes to smell hair - you could talk about the similarities. I did have my HFA son read it proactively because it is very, very clear about what exactly kids need to know when it comes to sexuality, bodily autonomy and consent.

I think a specialist is a good idea - your son needs to learn boundaries and appropriate social behavior around his sexuality.



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08 Jul 2015, 9:16 pm

Thank you, everyone, for your insights. And I will look into the books, thank you too.

I believe some 'catalogs' are our best option for immediately helping him with his stress with this, that might reduce the prevalence of the obsession a bit, if he has some option do do something with it. We're working on boundaries, and options seem good, if he can't do one thing, doing something else instead.My husband has reluctantly agreed - just to find out how to prepare something for him. The sort of feet he likes are particular, though I can't quite pinpoint how, so not any old pictures are probably going to work as well. He doesn't care at all for some. It's strange. It does seem to have something to do with toes. He likes them when they're longer but evenly descending in length - or at least, his father and his father's friend have that, and he seems most fixated on theirs compared to those of others. Also seems mostly those of Caucasians that he gets fixated on. I actually tried asking him, but I didn't get much out of him on what makes him 'tick' in regards to it. It's strange to do any of this. But if it helps...

Today was a rather difficult day in regards to this. It was on his mind a lot. He knows it's illegal to go after feet without permission - though seems to have trouble realizing anywhere, not just outside the house - but he has limited ability to understand other's thoughts and struggles to realize why it's illegal. He seems to just think laws exist to screw with him.

I don't think his own do it for him. It doesn't really work that way for anyone.



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08 Jul 2015, 10:17 pm

Linda123 wrote:
He seems to just think laws exist to screw with him.

In a way, he's right. In the US, at least, most laws, other than those directly related to the Ten Commandments, exist for two reasons and two reasons only: (1) To keep the strong in power, and (2) To keep the weak in their rightful place. Even then, there are no anti-adultery laws, because they would benefit the weak and take away power from the strong.

With that said, this is what we gotta follow, because a revolution ain't happening anytime soon. So I say teach your son the importance of boundaries and consent, and impress it upon him any way you know. An aspie man will get chewed up and spit out in the prison-industrial complex that's always looking for new blood. Perhaps you can push that angle.



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09 Jul 2015, 10:43 am

I suggest a therapist. The reason is that though we may , all of us, have unique sexual attractions, we can have
these and still relate to others in a social/sexual way. That gives us more choices of partners, if nothing else! Your
son may wind up to be gay, which is fine, and may love feet, which is fine. But right now, for his comfort, it might
be good to see a therapist and explore the subject so that HE is in control of his attractions. After all, there are those
who are turned on by blondes, fatties, etc. Keeping it legal, real, and somewhere on the bell shaped curve is
best in the long run.



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09 Jul 2015, 3:52 pm

I agree, I don't think it's a big issue what he's interested in, the only issue now is how to handle it at this age. It may become easier or harder with increasing maturity, which is why I think I will look into a specialist to help him in the near future - I worry only they may be overly judgmental or similar; his interests are, after all, not mainstream, and could be considered 'bad' to some people of certain mindsets. I don't want that being pushed on him.

In regards to the issue of providing some sort of personal material to use, do you think it would be appropriate perhaps to use that as leverage for good behavior? A reward of sorts? Something he can use when he doesn't act out but which he has to go without on the days that he does something he knows he shouldn't? I suppose like one might do with a video game, phone, etc, except I feel he'd value this much more.