What are your views on corporal punishment?
"Fully seven in 10 U.S. adults agree a “good, hard spanking is sometimes necessary to discipline a child,” while less than half as many disagree (29 percent) according to the 2014 wave of the General Social Survey released Tuesday by NORC at the University of Chicago. After a modest drop in popularity in the late-1980s and 90s, support has stabilized, fluctuating between 68 and 72 percent in the past decade."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/05/millennials-like-to-spank-their-kids-just-as-much-as-their-parents-did/
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Yet you do that to an adult, you can get charged with assault and battery. So why is there a discrepancy? Adults "misbehave" all the time yet it's certainly not acceptable nor expected anyone hit them for it, or spank them. How is a child misbehaving any different from an adult? I never met anyone who doesn't misbehave at times, young or old. It's just the human condition. Humans are not perfect beings. So how do you handle it?
If you can trust them to fix it. It provides a great opportunity to keep getting madder and madder at them every time they mess up, which predictably should happen more and more often as they get more nervous and frightened, thus closing the positive feedback loop.
There's also the more economical option of simply making a big show of how you deny them a chance to make up for the damage they've done, which will still be added to the ever-growing list of misdeeds they are and will forever be guilty of, because they're too clumsy, dumb and physically weak for you to trust them.
You can't do that without granting them those privileges first.
Well, since the most basic privilege is food, you can apply the time-honored method of making them do hard work in the fields all day long without eating. If one day is not enough, two in a row, and so on. Make sure they see the rest of the family is eating. Don't forget to escalate the punishment every time they don't perform well enough because their hungry and weary muscles and brain have become flaky. It has been scientifically established that this, slowly but surely, will erode their muscles and brain, especially the latter. These are the only organs whose cells can't multiply, so every one which dies is lost forever. They can only grow as long as each individual remaining cell grows. This means the punishment will have lasting effects for them to remember and regret their misbehavior, and will also make it easier and more hurtful for you to derisively remind them their weakness and dullness.
It goes much farther if you make a point to let them know the world is and always will be full of people much more powerful than them, who can do them arbitrarily serious damage, which will hurt them much more and for much longer than a mere spanking, so they'd better not cross them.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/05/millennials-like-to-spank-their-kids-just-as-much-as-their-parents-did/
so because a bunch of people got stuck in a cycle of abuse, that makes it ok somehow?
if you feel forced to hit your kid, you've lost control of being a parent.
Approaching this from a behaviorist perspective, conditioning by punishment (pain) requires that the consequence always occur immediately after every instance. When you touch a hot stove with a bare hand, you get burned, period. This does not occur with the behaviors parents spank for—parents are often not around to see them or are not willing or able to spank immediately afterwards.
Why is spanking ineffective for increasing desirable behavior?
Spanking does not convey positive guidance on how to behave in a particular situation, only how not to behave if a threat of punishment is at hand. Children learn positive behaviors from practicing actions that work, ones that lead to a sense of belonging and competence. They internalize what they practice and what their family practices. They learn reasons for their actions from what they hear and are told, but active practice has the deepest impact.
Why else is spanking harmful?
It undermines trust. Children trust their parents just a little less. They are more likely to step back from the relationship and build a self-protective shield around themselves in terms of relationships generally. Children can learn to mistrust the motives of others and become more threat reactive in social situations. It can lead to aggressive expectations—they are ready to aggress first before they are aggressed against.
Spanking is harmful for even more reasons, the review indicates:
Spanking destroys mental health.
Spanking increases delinquency and criminal behavior.
Spanking makes it more likely the child will be physically abused.
I think American culture and the American 'correct' way of doing things Is not always, correct.
This is some interesting information though guys and it's good to question things.
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The rod isn't what you think. It's a measuring stick, not intended to hit but to measure what someone does, in this case the parents. So you must not give into every child's demand, spoiling them. You measure what you give them out. This is what "spare the rod spoil the child means" but most people who read the Bible mistakenly think it means you grab a stick and beat a child with it or he's spoiled.
And in the book of Exodus it says you can sell daughters into slavery.
All societies are "might makes right". There's no escaping the law of the jungle, certainly not by felling the trees of the jungle and covering its soil with concrete. The only thing that can change is who holds the might and how they decide to use it.
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Give it time. There will be a military despot ruling this country sooner than you think.