school told student to get autism in check or get suspended

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18 Aug 2015, 10:27 pm

Mother said school administration told son to get autism in check or get suspended

Story hits home for me because I was thrown out of school after 2nd grade. Difference is my incident occurred in 1965 and it was the result of ignorance as nobody knew people like me were autistic. This is 2015 and is the result of willful ignorance. School refuses to diagnose him for the autism they tell him he has to "get in check".

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19 Aug 2015, 2:00 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:

chances are the whole state educational establishment is delinquent in their moral responsibility to educate ALL children, not just the easy ones.

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19 Aug 2015, 2:13 am

Just goes to prove how far a school district will go to deny services to a special needs child. What's wrong with the district? They were given a diagnosis by a licensed medical professional! You mean to tell me if I come down with a cold, or break my back, I have to see a school-sanctioned medical professional in order to have a valid excuse? I got news for you! Most school mental health professionals don't know their arse from a hole in the ground!

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20 Aug 2015, 6:14 am

Meistersinger wrote:

I got news for you! Most school mental health professionals don't know their arse from a hole in the ground!

I agree!! I'm thinking that might be the case if, for no other reason, but because they're going to side with the SCHOOL, versus the CHILD, because they're paid by the school.

Conversely, it would be a good idea to get a second a opinion, if the FIRST one was given by a school-paid professional.

The thing that got MY attention, was THIS:

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Peters said she's requested an evaluation multiple times for Xavier, but she said she was told her child was too smart.

I feel that's why most of us have so many problems, people not understanding how "smart" and "stupid" can reside in the same body (as in, being academically smart, but having extremely poor social skills)----but, an educational institution has NO EXCUSE for that type of ignorance, and they (the teachers / administrators), IMO, need some SERIOUS training!

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20 Aug 2015, 6:17 am

it's plain that derelict school district is simply trying to make the kid and his family go away.

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20 Aug 2015, 12:25 pm

This happened to me in elementary school, as well.

The administration didn't even understand what autism was, and they definitely weren't prepared to "deal with" an aspie.

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20 Aug 2015, 1:21 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Except they didn't know any better then, now with all the information out there about it, they have no excuse.

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20 Aug 2015, 1:34 pm

Campin_Cat wrote:

Meistersinger wrote:

The thing that got MY attention, was THIS:

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Peters said she's requested an evaluation multiple times for Xavier, but she said she was told her child was too smart.

You beat me to the punch with that point. Obviously, the school system's mental health professionals in Arcadia, Louisiana are ill-trained, and ilinformed about the nature of high functioning autism. That means every one of us here on WP would be deemed "too smart" to really be autistic.

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20 Aug 2015, 3:07 pm

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Campin_Cat wrote:

The thing that got MY attention, was THIS:

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Peters said she's requested an evaluation multiple times for Xavier, but she said she was told her child was too smart.

You beat me to the punch with that point. Obviously, the school system's mental health professionals in Arcadia, Louisiana are ill-trained, and ilinformed about the nature of high functioning autism. That means every one of us here on WP would be deemed "too smart" to really be autistic.

Yep----and, they gave me a double-whammy, because I'm "too sociable". The thing they didn't consider / didn't ASK, though, was..... Just because I'm outgoing, doesn't mean I've been successful, with social relationships----it just means I run my mouth, alot! LOL

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20 Aug 2015, 3:28 pm

Xenization wrote:

This happened to me in elementary school, as well.

The administration didn't even understand what autism was, and they definitely weren't prepared to "deal with" an aspie.

I dealed with the same thing in elementary school. My teachers didn't know how to deal with autism, so they just yelled at me.

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20 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm

IMHO it is all about the district trying to save money. As far as what they "know" about smart autistics in that district I don't have a clue, but there is a whole bunch of people from some parents to certain autistic specialists that refuse to accept the more modern ideas Autism as a spectrum, it must be obvious/visible impairments otherwise it is not "real autism" . They have been emboldened by the DSM 5 taking away the Aspergers diagnosis as Aspergers was and is symbolic of "fake" autism. Some feel that way professionally, but for a lot money enters into it. If Autism is not necessarily severe less need for ABA, CBA certain drugs and psychologists/psychiatrists billable time. If smart people can't be autistic, no need for school districts to spend extra money on them (or in this districts case spend any money at all.

As I posted in another thread the people on DSM 5 have openly said as much
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/aspergers-alive/201211/why-claim-aspergers-is-overdiagnosed

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David Kupfer, chair of the task force charged with the DSM revisions, blurted (link is external) to the New York Times avid Kupfer, chair of the task force charged with the DSM revisions, blurted (link is external) to the New York Times in January: “We have to make sure not everybody who is a little odd gets a diagnosis of autism or Asperger Disorder. It involves a use of treatment resources. It becomes a cost issue.

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Very relevant to the topic of the thread

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Dr. Bryna Siegel, a developmental psychologist at the University of California, San Francisco, told a Daily Beast reporter (link is external) in February that she “undiagnoses” nine of out ten students with so-called Asperger’s. Siegel was a member of the panel responsible for the inclusion of Asperger’s in the DSM-IV, which the reporter cited to me in a phone call as evidence of Seigel's objectivity: implicitly, Seigel is critiquing her own work. But that same journalist made no mention in the piece of Dr. Seigel’s history as an expert witness for school districts fending off families’ claims for those “enhanced services,” and the obvious conflict of interest (as well as the selection bias in her client pool) this represents. In October, she told New York magazine (link is external) that she undiagnoses six out of ten.

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20 Aug 2015, 3:49 pm

IMHO it is a slippery slope, from cutting resources for the disadvantaged, to actively discriminating against the disadvantaged, to outright disenfranchisement and incarceration and worse. this type of creeping quasi-fascism has for a long time been happening here in the USA and it is getting worse.

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