Angry about Nestle...and their water.
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Well its not exactly new, news to me that Nestle is helping perpetuate drought problems in California by continuing to drain water from the region to be re-sold as bottled water. So for a while I haven't been buying Nestle stuff, or so I thought. Just found out now they own Arrowhead water...so Arrowhead is nestle and I've been cluelessly buying the stuff thinking I was avoiding nestle and its non-sustainable practices.
Didn't know where else to put this because it is a current event and not specifically autism related. Anyways is anyone else bothered by Nestles behavior? Also apparently the CEO doesn't think all people have a right to water and so you can bet he'd like to have a full monopoly on water and would support any moves to privatize water making it a consumer product rather than a basic human resource people have the right to.
So yeah pretty disgusted with this.
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Not to defend Nestle, but the government neglected to pay any attention as well.
Also, their water use is literally a drop in the bucket. More than 80% of your california's water is used in agriculture, and much of that agriculture is either irrational to attempt in the california climate and is only possible due to heavy subsidies - like rice - or is being shipped overseas for profit, like the 6 million tons of extremely thirsty alfalfa that california exported to china, saudi arabia, and other countries last year.
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Apart from the dubious legality of collecting that rain water not all of us live places it is safe to drink out the faucet. You'd be surprised how unsafe the drinking water is in parts of this country.
California has too many people, too over developed, It can't take 50 million people while producing that amount of agriculture in what is essentially mostly desert.
Apart from the dubious legality of collecting that rain water not all of us live places it is safe to drink out the faucet. You'd be surprised how unsafe the drinking water is in parts of this country.
California has too many people, too over developed, It can't take 50 million people while producing that amount of agriculture in what is essentially mostly desert.
Small reminder.
those "too many people" consume less than 20% of the water used in the state.
80% of the water is used in agriculture. It's produced primarily for export, with 70% of what california agriculture exports to other countries - primarily to Canada, European Union, China/Hong Kong, Japan, Mexico, South Korea, United Arab Emirates, India, Turkey, and Vietnam.
I think it's a mistake to say that california has too many people and thus has a water problem. It's cash crops that are the problem.
It's big business, but agriculture is only 2% of california's economic activity.
Nothing against farmers per se - but these are hardly the guys putting food on your table. Aside from the dairy products. And nuts.
Having trouble finding a 2014 or even 2013 number. In 2009, almost 40 billion dollars in ag subsidies were received in california.
And then there's the bit about how they are only charged about 15% of the actual cost delivering the water to the farms.
I've been signing petitions for months against Nestle,not sure if it helps.
Bottling water and making a profit off it in a drought stricken area is just morally wrong,but that's corporate greed for you.
Big agri bears some of the blame for the water crisis,like why would anyone try to grow rice in an arid climate?
We grow rice here but we have swamps,makes sense.
There was a geologist on TV,the weather channel I think,that said Cali has destroyed its aquifers.They are in clay and when you pump them dry they collapse and never recover.Bye bye ground water.
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Didn't know where else to put this because it is a current event and not specifically autism related. Anyways is anyone else bothered by Nestles behavior? Also apparently the CEO doesn't think all people have a right to water and so you can bet he'd like to have a full monopoly on water and would support any moves to privatize water making it a consumer product rather than a basic human resource people have the right to.
So yeah pretty disgusted with this.
If you buy water, buy locally like you should try to do anyways. I see that you are in Colorado, so you have way more water then we do.
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Bottling water and making a profit off it in a drought stricken area is just morally wrong,but that's corporate greed for you.
Big agri bears some of the blame for the water crisis,like why would anyone try to grow rice in an arid climate?
We grow rice here but we have swamps,makes sense.
There was a geologist on TV,the weather channel I think,that said Cali has destroyed its aquifers.They are in clay and when you pump them dry they collapse and never recover.Bye bye ground water.
Nuts to petitions. The most effective way to force corporations to behave is by boycott. You hit them in their pocketbooks, they pay attention.
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When everyone is losing their heads except you, maybe you don't understand the situation.
Bottling water and making a profit off it in a drought stricken area is just morally wrong,but that's corporate greed for you.
Big agri bears some of the blame for the water crisis,like why would anyone try to grow rice in an arid climate?
We grow rice here but we have swamps,makes sense.
There was a geologist on TV,the weather channel I think,that said Cali has destroyed its aquifers.They are in clay and when you pump them dry they collapse and never recover.Bye bye ground water.
Nuts to petitions. The most effective way to force corporations to behave is by boycott. You hit them in their pocketbooks, they pay attention.
I agree with the boycott idea,I don't buy Nestle.If I purchase bottle water its locally sourced,and we have plenty of that here.
Petitions can work,I've seem where several I signed had desired results and it only tales a few minutes of time.
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Water tanks only. Boiling water three times is a waste of energy.
Anyway, for Cali; that's what you get building a city in the desert. What do you expect?
Ah, what the heck, just go steal somebody else's water.
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Water tanks only. Boiling water three times is a waste of energy.
Anyway, for Cali; that's what you get building a city in the desert. What do you expect?
Ah, what the heck, just go steal somebody else's water.
Waddaya think Calihorny's been doing for decades? They've been purloining water from their neighboring states!
Water tanks only. Boiling water three times is a waste of energy.
Anyway, for Cali; that's what you get building a city in the desert. What do you expect?
Ah, what the heck, just go steal somebody else's water.
Waddaya think Calihorny's been doing for decades? They've been purloining water from their neighboring states!
Take a look at what Mulholland ( Los Angeles' Water Baron ) did to the Owen's Valley. The crook went in and told the local farmers that he was developing a local irrigation district and that if they signed off on their water rights, he would supply plentiful irrigation water. The upshot is is that L.A. stole the water, including that of of the farmers who refused to play along by damming creeks and sucking the aquifer dry. Oh, and he and his cronies bought a lot of semi-arid rangeland in the San Fernando Valley for cheap because they knew water was coming.
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Do you not have running water at your house? Why not drink that? If you don't like how it tastes, you can get a Brita water pitcher and it filters it and makes it taste better they say. We have one but I can't tell a difference in water anyway. The only water I can tell is different is well water because of the sulfer smell.
You already buy water when you pay your water bill. Why buy different water to drink, or if you buy it because you like to take it with you, why not just get a case of Walmart bottled water and then refill the bottles and keep them in the fridge? It's water, not wine. It's not that different.
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You already buy water when you pay your water bill. Why buy different water to drink, or if you buy it because you like to take it with you, why not just get a case of Walmart bottled water and then refill the bottles and keep them in the fridge? It's water, not wine. It's not that different.
I actually drink water from my well, and only drink bottled water when I'm away for any period of time or if I need new water bottles ( I fill them halfway and then freeze them, topping them off in the morning ). Seeing as how I'm at the top of an aquifer at @6000 foot, I have good tasting, relatively pure water.
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