rowan county [KY] court clerk defies supreme court

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17 Sep 2015, 10:37 pm

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it seems of her ilk there is no limit to the trouble they can cause.


People who are in the right shouldn't have to resort to sh*tty little tricks. Goes to show you how she's hardly in the right.

in the fullness of time, when she meets her maker and has her life review, she might grok it then. but in this lifetime I doubt she will understand just how evilly she has been behaving.


Oh, no, not with her lawyers, Hucksterbee, and all her fan club telling her how righteous she is!


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18 Sep 2015, 8:03 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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it seems of her ilk there is no limit to the trouble they can cause.


People who are in the right shouldn't have to resort to sh*tty little tricks. Goes to show you how she's hardly in the right.

Yes, she very petty...



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18 Sep 2015, 6:23 pm

she is the shite git who won't quite quit.



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18 Sep 2015, 8:43 pm

Well, she might very well be returning to jail, to which Hucksterbee and her lawyers, looking for a martyr, will rub their hands together, and say in their best Montgomery Burns voice: "Excellent!"


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18 Sep 2015, 9:07 pm

I think the judge is under tremendous pressure to look the other way this time, this is gonna turn into a nasty court battle over the validity of the marriage licenses.



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18 Sep 2015, 10:25 pm

^ Or else the state legislature will come up with its own solutions formally allowing the current improvised arrangements to stand. Like authorising a new template for marriage licences that removes the need for the county clerk to personally sign and explicitly authorise every single licence. It shouldn't be a difficult task for the state legislature. In fact this could have been cleared up long ago had they anticipated this kind of scenario and acted on it sooner.


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18 Sep 2015, 10:32 pm

could the legislature have known ahead of time that some fundy fruitloop would gum up the works so?



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18 Sep 2015, 10:41 pm

In a conservative state like Kentucky? Of course they could've anticipated a scenario like Davis'. Similar stories have emerged in other states, some before Obergefell was even decided.


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26 Sep 2015, 12:33 pm

I'll state my thoughts on this. It's one thing to not do something based on personal principle yet, the way I see it is all people on this entire planet regardless of gender choice or marriages deserves humanity first and foremost. Therefore, I think the clerk was in the wrong. Auntblabby, if your reading this I'd like to point out that not all homosexual citizens always choose to live in bigoted territory or place of residence. Yes, I'm heterosexual however, I think all persons deserve to be treated humanely by all accounts so, denying the rights of someone when it has been observed as being lawful is just being something out of the "Dark Ages". That's right it's time to string up kazanscube for speaking heresy. Anyways, I hope that I provided a coherent & decent point within this topic?


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26 Sep 2015, 12:38 pm

It's now the law of the land. Irregardless of our beliefs, it's still the law. If she was honest, she would resign. And I'm writing this from the perspective of a heterosexual, mainstream Christian. " Render unto Caesar those things that are Caesar's..........".


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26 Sep 2015, 3:38 pm

kazanscube wrote:
I'll state my thoughts on this. It's one thing to not do something based on personal principle yet, the way I see it is all people on this entire planet regardless of gender choice or marriages deserves humanity first and foremost. Therefore, I think the clerk was in the wrong. Auntblabby, if your reading this I'd like to point out that not all homosexual citizens always choose to live in bigoted territory or place of residence. Yes, I'm heterosexual however, I think all persons deserve to be treated humanely by all accounts so, denying the rights of someone when it has been observed as being lawful is just being something out of the "Dark Ages". That's right it's time to string up kazanscube for speaking heresy. Anyways, I hope that I provided a coherent & decent point within this topic?

right on :wtg:



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06 Oct 2015, 10:49 pm

I resent the negative talk about Kentucky. I'm from rural Kentucky, a place very much like Rowan County. I grew up in a fundamentalist church. If you grew up in our culture you would understand. Fundamentalist Cristians make up a majority of the population, and I hate to say it but racists make up a good proportion if not the majority of the population. This is her religious belief and in her social context she is normal. The reason the state government is not stepping in is because people like her make up such a large part of the electorate.

We kentuckians are not inbred or illiterate. But the culture in Kentucky tends to be very socially conservative. It's not going to change just because mainstream America changes.

I too think Kim Davis is wrong. I left Kentucky because of the racism and left the church because of the homophobic teachings. But I understand where Kim Davis is coming from. I also understand where her supporters are coming from. In many cases they truly believe America will be cursed because the government allows gay marriage and see themselves as fighting for what's right. If the fundamentalist church was your only source of information about religion (as is the case in many parts of Kentucky) you would probably be homophobic too. You wouldn't be around anybody who would seriously challenge that viewpoint unless you voluntarily moved to another part of the country.

I think this issue will ultimately be resolved in favor of gay marriage, but Kim Davis probably won't change and the millions of people who think like her won't change either. Thousands of years of homophobia aren't going to be eradicated with a Supreme Court decision. People aren't going to give up their deeply held religious beliefs based on a Supreme Court decision either.



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07 Oct 2015, 9:29 am

I don't think it matters what Kentucky is like. No one is trying to make her change her views. All we care about is that she quit her job since she can't legally do it. Then put someone there who can do the job. Pretty simple solution...



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09 Oct 2015, 2:18 pm

Well I care about what people say about my home state. We are not ignorant rubes and hicks. The way Kentucky and Appalachia has been described by some people in this trad exemplifies the same judgemental, self-righteous, and ignorance that several posters criticize Kim Davis for. It's okay to disagree with someone but not to character assassinate them or insult a whole region of the country.



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10 Oct 2015, 5:19 pm

em_tsuj wrote:
Fundamentalist Cristians make up a majority of the population, and I hate to say it but racists make up a good proportion if not the majority of the population. This is her religious belief and in her social context she is normal.


...and this is why AS is in the DSM but extreme Fundamentalist Christianity isn't; the religious exclusion for mental illnesses. If something doesn't cause a problem for someone "in their local culture" then...it is no longer a break with reality, no matter how bizarre or harmful to others a set of "sincerely held" irrational beliefs may be.


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