My new theory on self diagnosed autistics

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Yes, that can happen, but for some of us, we don't want to get upset/disturbed about something that may be being misrepresented, so we require at least basic evidence for a "shocker" story before getting upset about it. Nothing crazy, but at least something that supports the assertion being made. That's where I'm coming from, anyway.

I may be overly-logical but this is usually how I operate, especially as regards "viral videos" (i.e. the blinding), shows that are known to utilize sensationalism in order to get ratings (a standard M.O., I'm not saying they're The Debbil or anything ), etc. Again, if there's anything concrete about these stories, of course I'll believe them; I don't automatically disbelieve them, I realize there are "crazy" people out there, just saying a. I see no reason to believe without questioning, especially in a venue (internet, talk show) that relies on grabbing people's attention and would be interested in seeing links to some sort of evidence for them, and am also saying that even if true, they don't seem to necessarily support that faking autism, etc. is some sort of a larger or growing problem or whatever. That's just my personal view of all this.

I'm not trying to pick on your ideas, I hope you don't take it that way.

So, with all that being said. Are you in support in some way of what the OP is saying or not?

Stories like this will justify peoples beliefs about a kid's diagnoses being a fake and the fact they are just normal kids that need more discipline just because the family is poor or low income. These articles always frighten me.

I understand what you are saying. My mom is the same way. She will be the first to tell me there is probably more to the story than what is being told. If something sounds f****d up, she will be skeptical. But of course she knows there are disturbed children out there and people. Which is why she will read different things on the same subject and if there is only one thing about it, she won't believe it and just take it as an opinion or perspective. I try to do that now.

Umm SSI is welfare....and it pays terribly, a low income pair of parents and their child could not live on SSI in any comfortable manner. Granted its possible in some cases fraud occurs but getting caught for faking disability or making your child fake disability is a very, very, very serious offense certainly not worth the measly SSI income.

edit* I have to say that article is dripping with BS...SSI does not pay thousands of dollars, it is a form of welfare and right off the article seems quite anecdotal. And that is just in the first couple sentences I dread to continue reading

Probably not relevant her but I get social security for my kids because my husband and I are both on it. I am not sure how much they get but it is a lot less than $1,000 each so I can see how someone else might keep having children to get more from SSI for their kids because it all adds up.

Yes but I imagine the amount of parents actually having more and more kids specifically to get more from SSI are a very small minority of parents who are collecting disability on behalf of their children. A parent collecting SSI for two children would then be getting less than 2,000 and so on. From what I understand pregnancies/having babies is not exactly cheap either. Also you wouldn't automatically get more SSI for each additional child...that would depend on if they are diagnosed as disabled or not.

So I kind of doubt the epidemic of lazy welfare parents having more and more kids just to get more SSI, as I say its probably a very small minority.

Thanks for the clarification on that article... Sorry for posting something that wasn't right!

Well, unless the dividend is greater than 1, and the divisor is between 0 and 1, exclusive. Or both the dividend and divisor are less than 0. In both cases, the quotient would be greater than the dividend.

Yes, I prefer your compassionate viewpoints to the OP's dismissive generalising too; and this analysis found very high concordance rates of ASD scores between self and formally diagnosed:
http://abnormaldiversity.blogspot.co.nz ... nosis.html

NO I am NOT effing INSANE...I am telling you what I see every single day WHERE I LIVE...not where YOU live. Why is it so hard for you to actually read somethig and understand that things are NOT what you see around you ONLY? Where I freaking live that is the way it is. I see it everyday. I have spoken with MANY teachers, therapists, etc. here. In fact over 33% of the kids here have some type of disability, that is BS...it is made up because yes, WHERE I LIVE the parents get extra money NOT in SSI, it doesn't exist here, but in welfare, foodstamps, handicap parking spaces and MANY OTHER THINGS...so get over yourself and try to understand another's point of view and understand that there is an entire world out there NOT just your little world in whatever town you live in in the USA. Geez.

I am mostly in agreement with those who feel that self-diagnosis is valid due to a variety of factors...however i can see where you are coming from here too, whatamess. I live in an area where ppl seem to be polar opposites on this--we have ppl such as myself and my family who tend to be in total denial of illness/disability until it "smacks them upside the head" so to speak, in a way that can't be ignored and must be dealt with.

Then we have a portion of our population in our locality who dress in expensive clothing, own stuff i myself can't afford, but live in trashy-looking abodes with junk all around and pull out access cards to pay for their chips, soda etc., while buying lottery tickets on the side. And teach their kids how to get on some type of disability as young as possible so they can play the system instead of being a contributing member of society. So yes, there are those who push for a diagnosis of something, anything, to get money or special treatment.

However, there are a lot of ppl, myself included, who find a self-diagnosis a huge sigh of relief as they can finally stop blaming themselves for things that are neurological issues rather than character weaknesses. Those are the ones i have sympathy for. The lady who pulls out her access card to pay for her soda, chips, and pizza at a convenience store while i am waiting to buy gas for my car or some other practical thing and go home and cook supper for my family because it is cheaper...her i have no patience or use for. (i realize that there are those who are legitimately on public assistance too and i am not directing my rant at those folks. I needed it once too, but thankfully, not any more. I am talking about those who play the system at the expense of us hard working ppl and then live at a higher standard than those of us who work to earn our money.)

I can understand your logic in that. If someone is sucidal and he or she finds a group of people with a diagnosis they identity with and their mental health situation improves due to acceptance within this group isn't that a good thing?

I think in many ways it can be a good and bad thing. If someone can live life peacefully with their mind at ease isn't that a good thing? Yes, but life has a habit of catching up with all of us.

Again without the professional diagnosis from someone who is license to give an objective diagnosis what's to say that persons life won't come apart again without the proper treatment and care.

Every day in my city we deal with people with extreme psychosis who are better off in an Asylum but are literally kicked to the streets with free housing, food, and most importantly medication to keep them there psychosis in check.

But when they do not take their medicine they become a danger to themselves and other people.

My biggest fear when it comes to this crowd is what happens for those who are not autistic and do not receive the proper treatment.

Doctors miss diagnose people all the time granted but that miss diagnosis can have real consequences as that person can become impaired, injured or lose his or her life due to a miss diagnosis and can be a legal nightmare for the medical group the doctor is in.

That danger still exists when someone plays doctor as well.

If anything we as a country really need to jump start our care for those who have mental impairments.
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