WTF Article claims Positive Effects of Bullying Autistics

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[personal philosophy]I don't think people are sane or insane, aside from people with actual physical damage to their brain. I think most people we call "insane" we do for an emotional lift-- it's easier to swallow if we make that person "other", and not like each and every one of us should we be unfortunate enough to face the events the "insane" person has had to deal with. I'm a believer that any person, even the sweet old lady down the street, can become "insane" if forced to go through certain circumstances. That being said, in school shootings I don't think the shooter is actively thinking, at least not with their logical brain, I think their behavior is influenced much more by the underlying reptilian instinct than anything thoughtful. [/personal philosophy]

When a person has been dehumanized, well, they're no longer human and thus don't see other humans with any value-- disabled, black, brown, green, doesn't matter since they're all the same: enemies. It's the same type of "extermination" philosophy that the Nazis had, but it's carried out by an individual, not a group. And before anyone makes the claim I'm equating jews with bullies, not it at all, I'm saying the same underlying mentality can be seen in both mass murderers and the Nazi philosophy-- extermination of everyone not the same as themselves.

edit: grammar.

Well you can't definitely determine if a murderer is insane or not. Psychology is just probability. Diagnosing someone is a bunch of educated hunches based on what humans are observed doing. As a student of mathematics, that will not suffice.

If you want to prove a difficult problem, you must find a mathematical proof to prove it with absolute certainty. If we were to go about doing mathematics in the same way as psychology, the Riemann Hypothesis is true since it has been observed to be true for certain cases a few billion times, which is simply not enough.

I see.

I have been a member of this forum for several weeks now, but this thread has prompted me to make my first post. I am 41 and although I have yet to be diagnosed with Asperger's (I strongly believe I have it and am in the process of getting evaluated), I can certainly relate to bullying. When I was in school, from the 7th grade to graduation, I was bullied, often verbally, sometimes physically, sometimes both at once. Bullies are nothing more than savages. You cannot reason with them or otherwise treat with them. They understand one thing- FORCE. This banter I hear coming from the media and school officials about reporting bullies is TOTAL BUNK! I found that reporting those people only ensured that they would be back-WITH THEIR FRIENDS. I came to understand that fighting was the ONLY solution to the problem-win or lose did not matter. I went though this garbage at school only to come home to mentally abusive parents. Only a good sense of right and wrong prevented me from literally killing my own so called mom (and the fact that dad would have done me in afterward). I can't count how many times I was told 'you're pathetic' 'you're worthless' and 'you won't amount to anything'. I only heard 'I'm proud of you', once. I could not believe my ears. There is a lot more to this terrible story, but I won't say it here, suffice to say that when I die I expect credit for time served in Hell.

I'm sympathetic to your suffering. I didn't have parents near like what you described, so I cannot relate on that front, only give my sympathy-- which having been through other difficult things myself, I know isn't worth the cost of electricity it took to type and post. That being said I applaud your ability to contain your anger before it spilled into bloodshed, I hope something constructive came from your experience. The part of your post I quoted shows you've developed a healthy sense of humor over the events (very snarky), which I think is fundamental to getting over any type of abuse.

I was the first to explicitly point out in this thread that the article was a promotional tool. What to do?. Do nothing just take it, let her make profits from her horrific tactic and let her treatments she sold by using this tactic damage Autistic kids by trying to make them less Autistic as possible. Yell and scream. That may go two ways. It could as you expect backfire making her more profits and damaging more kids them would have happened if we just would have shut the bleep up. Or it could lead to widespread condemnation thus damaging her brand leading to less profits and less damaged autistic kids.

All I know is just shutting up and taking it rarely worked for me.

You may be right, but I think you're assigning way too much intelligence and deviousness to this woman, especially since most of the readers had such a negative reaction to it. Why would an angry mom want to buy the app? I think she genuinely does want to say that positive change can come from a bad situation, and that it can be a opportunity for growth. My guess is that she just made some very poor word choices. On the other hand, there are those who think that there is no such thing as bad press.


More, like, we don't need to see what appear to be arguments that seem to give justification to school administrators who are reluctant to interfere in bullying. It's probably not her intent, but the general lack of sensitivity in her delivery obliterated her intended message.

Silly little puppies, all being led down the garden path....

Take off the blinkers and see the article for what it is - a promotional tool. Your sense of self-importance is blinding you from reality.

Do you think the article would exist without an app to promote?

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Whew! Now who's going off with the ad hominems? I thought this was just a debate?