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11 Apr 2007, 5:03 pm

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I also want my browsers to have the ability to spoof other browsers very accurately. (e.g. more than just through the http header, but also programming interfaces of other browsers and other nasty methods that evil web developers use to find out if I am not using IE)


Haa that reminds me of opera. That has to be the worst browser for design imo. It is not their fault they are a victim of their own success. Love their spoofing lol. Probably not a good idea to have window.opera though oh well. Sure there is a fix but is beyond what most users would do.

I have to say I pretty much always work to fit things not botch to fit browsers. Though opera can be a bit of a pain sometimes. I think they are mostly correct with their 'dots' unfortunately they haven't joined them up quite right (and that is not something you can get from specifications). Also they spent time on additional browser specific stuff which nobody uses they could have spent on catching up with AJAX and XML object parsing. Still I haven't had many major problem recently so maybe it will be okish. AJAX is ok in Opera some of the time. But I blame them for delaying Mobile AJAX but they come good now.

IE is crap but you learn to live with it I guess.

Yeh sorry the question. simple interface, multiplatform, open source, conforms to standards but also
crucially runs and renders intelligently, up to date, responsible and responsive system of bug reporting, flexibility in developing add ons, popup blocker that works but has unobtrusive messages.



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11 Apr 2007, 5:56 pm

Oh! has anyone mentioned... a buiit-in speli chack that polltely hlnts when my spellinq is not guite up to stardand.


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11 Apr 2007, 5:59 pm

^^ I use FF and have that, such as if I misspell a word in this post.



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11 Apr 2007, 6:21 pm

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^^ I use FF and have that, such as if I misspell a word in this post.

My point exactly. I use SeaMonkey. Same think, except that I prefer to have my email integrated, plus other stuff.

Today I was helping someone getting onto broadband... downloading Google Earth, and so on. I used IE for a while, before giving up and installing FF. Then I didn't change FF to be the default browser, for a while, until a couple of stupid pop-ups of IE made me change my mind. I hope they get on with FF. I put AdBlock Plus on, so if they touch IE again, they'll likely run screaming straight back to FF. :)

The other thing I was having trouble with was remembering that XP is so... awkward. I'm so used to cut&paste by highlighting anything, anywhere, then a middle click on where I want it to go. It's just so... natural. Does Vista understand that there's a third button? (Not as if I care...)


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11 Apr 2007, 6:35 pm

nope. just tried and it didn't work.



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11 Apr 2007, 6:56 pm

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nope. just tried and it didn't work.

Sorry, I use Linux, and the cut&paste method I mentioned is pretty typical for the various desktops.

I just wondered if Vista did anything with the middle button. XP uses the wheel here and there, but I don't think I've come across much (other than Google Earth) than uses the middle button as a button. Certainly not in any consistent fashion.


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11 Apr 2007, 9:20 pm

Anything that uses Cocoa in OSX has built in spell check. Unfortunately, many programs tell Cocoa to go f'ck itself and use their own widgets, thereby breaking the built in spell checker.



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11 Apr 2007, 9:32 pm

something i can view porn with safely and effectively.



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12 Apr 2007, 3:57 am

lynx!

Then uhhm.

OSx: Camino (surprised this wasn't listed)
Win**: Opera (FF alternatively, you can spoof with FF btw.)
*Nix: Opera

I have memory leaks with Opera on OSx and it has CPU control issues, maybe their newer versions will give me a better handle.

SS of camino:
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Just edit your hosts.deny for the ads that make it through <shrugs>



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12 Apr 2007, 4:06 am

Lau wrote:
aylissa wrote:
^^ I use FF and have that, such as if I misspell a word in this post.

My point exactly. I use SeaMonkey. Same think, except that I prefer to have my email integrated, plus other stuff.


The FF one annoys me. I thought that it was cool, but it's slow, lacking too many words, and simply doesn't catch a lot of the ways that I like to misspell things (mainly typos). Then again, most spell-checkers have trouble with me.



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12 Apr 2007, 4:07 am

I'd like to note that I had no clue there was 3 ads on wrongplanet.net until I disabled that checkbox. So if you use OSX you can eliminate all ads on this site via this. And uh, administrators you didn't hear this, or if you did you should note it's camino's fault not mine, banning me will not fix the problem..! ;P



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12 Apr 2007, 5:48 am

SlackUser wrote:
I'd like to note that I had no clue there was 3 ads on wrongplanet.net until I disabled that checkbox. So if you use OSX you can eliminate all ads on this site via this. And uh, administrators you didn't hear this, or if you did you should note it's camino's fault not mine, banning me will not fix the problem..! ;P


I turn java-script off and I I block all pop-up ads with Opera's blocking feature. I think the banner adds on the top , bottom and left are OK. If people have got offensive adds on WP then there is about 99% their computer has a cookie set by an ad company that has tracked them at an adult site for example(you get them because you are a pervert and/or a pervert uses your computer :) )



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12 Apr 2007, 6:11 am

Opera is the best and fastest browser there is. Unfortunately I wish it would open all the pages that require Firefox or IE6+. I hate having to open firefox and suffer its poor workflow by comparison to Opera.



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12 Apr 2007, 11:29 am

i use 3 internet brownsers! all for diferent reasons!
1. IE: safe sites with no spyware or virus that i no
2. Firefox: opposite of IE
3. Opera: inbetween IE and Firefox

thinking about a fourth netscape navigator! except its old as heck!



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12 Apr 2007, 8:39 pm

Hey I just wanted to add that I downloaded Opera 9.20 and it has a really awesome feature called speed dial. It displays nine thumbnails of your favourite most visited sites when you start a new page and as the name suggests you can click on them. Borat says, Izzz niiice.



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12 Apr 2007, 9:00 pm

nb411 wrote:
Hey I just wanted to add that I downloaded Opera 9.20 and it has a really awesome feature called speed dial. It displays nine thumbnails of your favourite most visited sites when you start a new page and as the name suggests you can click on them. Borat says, Izzz niiice.

I trust you can turn it off. It would annoy me no end. What I "open a new page" (or rather, a new tab) I want that, not something else.


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