Very irritated with people who criticize Abortion

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@nurseangela

Abortion is not on the same moral playing field as getting a tattoo or selling your body, there is another human life in the equation.

Not a problem because I'm done here.

I don't understand how to not make things personal when one is addressing someone else's comments. I thought addressing someone personally (even in anger) was only not permitted in the Haven. I guess I'm not understanding the rules. I've seen disagreements/arguments in several threads. It probably should be expected when discussing such topics as abortion, religion, etc.

I am not against women having control over their own bodies, as far as I am concerned, they do have control. If you don't want to get pregnant, you don't have sex, it worked for me. It has worked for many. In fact, I am amazed that most people I know who are pro-abortion, who feel that it is the woman's right to choose, are also the first to blame men for getting women pregnant, who want to squeeze every single penny out of a guy because he fathered a child...but wait, I thought it was a woman's right to choose? To me, if you choose, you as a woman live with the consequences, I have no problem with that. That means you have a right to close your legs, you have a right to open them and get pregnant and have an abortion, you have the right to keep the baby and support it yourself as well, NOT that you get to choose what happens and then have everyone cater to what you want, that is being irresponsible.

As far as this:

"Do pro-lifers know what happens when an unborn baby is born to a poor or drug addicted teenage mother, who just make a mistake (like many young people do)? Well, what happens to the baby, is that it grows up unloved, abused, neglected, and watches its mother get mistreated, used, and abused by bad men - unwanted children who grew up. The unwanted child then carries this trauma and anger with him throughout his entire life, and expresses that anger by abusing others and repeating the same cycle, and most likely having an unwanted child of their own, who will then repeat the cycle."

The fact is that many of the women who have abortions are NOT the drug addicted teenage mothers, they have the kids so they can collect money from the government, abuse their kids, etc. Go figure. By the way, they also have the option of giving up kids for adoption, but choose not to, because they'd rather abuse their own kids and have someone else pay their way in life.

And yes, I do believe abortion is murder as well. If someone wants an abortion and the state allows it, fine. Then let's make sure that person NEVER can get pregnant again either. The fact is that if someone has an abortion and therefore, no respect for human life once, they will never have respect for human life and therefore, should not be allowed to ever get pregnant again.

As far as assisted suicide? I think each person should have control over THEIR OWN BODY...no problem with that.

PS when I say you, I don't mean you personally , that's just the way I write

If you don't like children, don't have sex. If you don't like handicapped people, don't have sex. That's a good way to avoid an abortion.

I'm totally with nurseangela. So if a prostitute had a baby she would have to care for it, even though the man was responsible for impregnating her in the first place, and HAD A CHOICE HIMSELF not to get involved in something irresponsible. Yes, how convenient for the man. And a completely horrendous situation for the woman. After all she gets 100% blame either way from you, even though it was you who impregnated her, ruining her life (assuming according she *had* to keep the baby), but hey for you it was a jolly good time. Who gives a damn about the prozzie and her kid now anyway?

As regards to the "don't have sex then" argument...that is just unbelievable too. No matter how much you try to force your morals on other people, they will always have sex.

As with most arguments here, nobody ever changes their viewpoints. It's just the same rigid people dictating to others how they should live their lives.