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29 Aug 2016, 1:28 pm

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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."

When you state "No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.", you are making the assertion that all civilians are as you portray them. That being thinking they're special and entitled not having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat. That sums up your opinion of civilians. Therefore my comment is clearly valid even if it makes you uncomfortable...


Nope.

Please quote me where I said civilians were "worthless" while soldiers are "great."

I clearly showed you saying civilians are worthless. By implication, you're saying that soldiers are better than civilians. Does that clear it up for you. Picky much???


This is silly. Go back and read this:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=305774&start=585#p7268648

What you see there is an approximate equation, not an inequality.

It looks like this: Military ≈ Civilians

Which has a totally different meaning than what you think you can read in later: Military > Civilians

The idea that civilians and soldiers are "entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat" is pretty much a cornerstone of modern western and global civilization.


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29 Aug 2016, 2:02 pm

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This is silly. Go back and read this:
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopi ... 5#p7268648

What you see there is an approximate equation, not an inequality.

It looks like this: Military ≈ Civilians

Which has a totally different meaning than what you think you can read in later: Military > Civilians

The idea that civilians and soldiers are "entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat" is pretty much a cornerstone of modern western and global civilization.


Pretty much. Thanks, Adam.

To put a finer point on things, the main thrust of my posts is that all of the criticisms that were leveled at service members (and I don't necessarily think all of those criticisms are entirely invalid) are just as equally applicable to civilians.

As a military veteran myself, I just tend to get irked when I see slings and arrows being lobbed at military service as if military service is the only occupation of suspect virtue.


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29 Aug 2016, 2:05 pm

Even if the "cause" is wrong, why must we lambaste the soldiers who actually are forced to go into the "front lines" for this "wrong cause."

It is not they who are espousing the "cause."

It is they who are protecting us civilians, though.



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29 Aug 2016, 2:13 pm

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Support for third-party political candidates will never gain traction in the US.


^This line of thinking is the reason third-party political candidates are not currently gaining traction in the US.



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29 Aug 2016, 2:29 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
Adamantium wrote:

This is silly. Go back and read this:
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopi ... 5#p7268648

What you see there is an approximate equation, not an inequality.

It looks like this: Military ≈ Civilians

Which has a totally different meaning than what you think you can read in later: Military > Civilians

The idea that civilians and soldiers are "entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat" is pretty much a cornerstone of modern western and global civilization.


Pretty much. Thanks, Adam.

To put a finer point on things, the main thrust of my posts is that all of the criticisms that were leveled at service members (and I don't necessarily think all of those criticisms are entirely invalid) are just as equally applicable to civilians.

As a military veteran myself, I just tend to get irked when I see slings and arrows being lobbed at military service as if military service is the only occupation of suspect virtue.

I wish you had said that in the first place. It's quite clear what your meaning is now...



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29 Aug 2016, 6:47 pm

Politicians who become involved in sex scandals should never be given a second chance.


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29 Aug 2016, 6:49 pm

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Politicians who become involved in sex scandals should never be given a second chance.


I'm pretty sure Hillary didn't have a threesome XD


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29 Aug 2016, 6:59 pm

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Politicians who become involved in sex scandals should never be given a second chance.


I'm pretty sure Hillary didn't have a threesome XD


:lol:


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29 Aug 2016, 9:25 pm

tony the weiner must have a corpus cavernosum in place of his corpus callosum.



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31 Aug 2016, 4:18 pm

I am not against abortion at all, but at the same time I don't believe that it should be OK for mothers to ever tell their own children that they wanted to abort them just because they are mad at their kids (I really do know of two other women who have done that sort of thing to their kids in front of me and if my mother ever told me something like that I would never forgive her). Because of my personal opinion on that sort of thing the pro-life as well as the feminists all seem to hate me for it which is why I refuse to ever discuss it.



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31 Aug 2016, 4:47 pm

I'm pro-choice. I don't really like abortion too much. They should ban second and third trimester abortions.

If I were given a choice as a human being, I would rather be born and get adopted/live in foster care than to die before I even experienced life.



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31 Aug 2016, 5:38 pm

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I'm pro-choice. I don't really like abortion too much. They should ban second and third trimester abortions.

If I were given a choice as a human being, I would rather be born and get adopted/live in foster care than to die before I even experienced life.


See I am pro-choice too but at the same time I don't think abortion is something that people should take lightly. There are a lot of legitimate reasons why a woman should be allowed to have an abortion (critical health problems for both mother and baby, getting conceived by rape, a very young girl who made a mistake and doesn't deserve to have her life ruined, etc) and frankly adoption isn't all that it's cranked up to be I heard that some places these days refuse to even let a woman give up her unwanted baby for adoption and will force her to keep it because they think they can make her be a mother. But at the same time abortion is what it is (so is the death penalty and war I mean I'm just sayin) and it really sickens me when people make light of that sort of thing.

Also another unpopular political view I have is about marijuana. I'm sorry but I refuse to buy into all the hype about this stuff being a safer recreational drug than tobacco I don't care if it gets legalized or whatever but that doesn't mean I have to start using it just because other people are using it because they believe all the bull about it being some kind of new harmless miracle drug. I feel like any kind of addictive substance can be harmful in the longrun especially if it is something you end up having to waste good money on just to support your addiction (that is exactly why I never started smoking or drinking).



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31 Aug 2016, 6:16 pm

BlasphemousDoggy wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm pro-choice. I don't really like abortion too much. They should ban second and third trimester abortions.

If I were given a choice as a human being, I would rather be born and get adopted/live in foster care than to die before I even experienced life.


See I am pro-choice too but at the same time I don't think abortion is something that people should take lightly. There are a lot of legitimate reasons why a woman should be allowed to have an abortion (critical health problems for both mother and baby, getting conceived by rape, a very young girl who made a mistake and doesn't deserve to have her life ruined, etc) and frankly adoption isn't all that it's cranked up to be I heard that some places these days refuse to even let a woman give up her unwanted baby for adoption and will force her to keep it because they think they can make her be a mother. But at the same time abortion is what it is (so is the death penalty and war I mean I'm just sayin) and it really sickens me when people make light of that sort of thing.

Also another unpopular political view I have is about marijuana. I'm sorry but I refuse to buy into all the hype about this stuff being a safer recreational drug than tobacco I don't care if it gets legalized or whatever but that doesn't mean I have to start using it just because other people are using it because they believe all the bull about it being some kind of new harmless miracle drug. I feel like any kind of addictive substance can be harmful in the longrun especially if it is something you end up having to waste good money on just to support your addiction (that is exactly why I never started smoking or drinking).

I believe that most people who are pro-choice understand it isn't something to be taken lightly. However, a woman has all the rights to her body. As for marijuana, you are mistaken. It isn't addictive and nobody is saying it is a safe harmless drug. But again it's my body and if I use it responsibly, I should have that right. Nobody is going to force you to use it. It is safer than alcohol, which is addictive. I use it strictly for medicinal reasons for the problems autism can cause with sleep and anxiety. There are also young children who are alive and thriving because marijuana resolves there fatal seizure disorders that would ultimately kill them. It also shows signs of relieving PTSD. You need to research your claims before putting false claims out there. By the way, I don't like feeling high, but it makes quite a difference for me and how I feel.



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31 Aug 2016, 6:28 pm

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Have any views that most people disagree with? Post them here.


Most certainly. Here's my belief system in a nutshell: I believe that the United States directly created ISIS/Al-Qaeda, that Israel is a terrorist entity with no right to exist, that 9/11 was an inside job, that Jesus was a brown-skinned Palestinian socialist Jew and that Muhammad Rasulullah was the best human being ever to live. I'm also very pro-choice, vehemently anti-zionist, very pro-marijuana legalization and believe that prostitution should be legal and regulated. I also like to write violent erotic fantasy fiction and my character names, archetypes, story tropes and underlying messages often get me into hot water on both sides of the political spectrum.



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31 Aug 2016, 8:33 pm

pcuser wrote:
BlasphemousDoggy wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm pro-choice. I don't really like abortion too much. They should ban second and third trimester abortions.

If I were given a choice as a human being, I would rather be born and get adopted/live in foster care than to die before I even experienced life.


See I am pro-choice too but at the same time I don't think abortion is something that people should take lightly. There are a lot of legitimate reasons why a woman should be allowed to have an abortion (critical health problems for both mother and baby, getting conceived by rape, a very young girl who made a mistake and doesn't deserve to have her life ruined, etc) and frankly adoption isn't all that it's cranked up to be I heard that some places these days refuse to even let a woman give up her unwanted baby for adoption and will force her to keep it because they think they can make her be a mother. But at the same time abortion is what it is (so is the death penalty and war I mean I'm just sayin) and it really sickens me when people make light of that sort of thing.

Also another unpopular political view I have is about marijuana. I'm sorry but I refuse to buy into all the hype about this stuff being a safer recreational drug than tobacco I don't care if it gets legalized or whatever but that doesn't mean I have to start using it just because other people are using it because they believe all the bull about it being some kind of new harmless miracle drug. I feel like any kind of addictive substance can be harmful in the longrun especially if it is something you end up having to waste good money on just to support your addiction (that is exactly why I never started smoking or drinking).

I believe that most people who are pro-choice understand it isn't something to be taken lightly. However, a woman has all the rights to her body. As for marijuana, you are mistaken. It isn't addictive and nobody is saying it is a safe harmless drug. But again it's my body and if I use it responsibly, I should have that right. Nobody is going to force you to use it. It is safer than alcohol, which is addictive. I use it strictly for medicinal reasons for the problems autism can cause with sleep and anxiety. There are also young children who are alive and thriving because marijuana resolves there fatal seizure disorders that would ultimately kill them. It also shows signs of relieving PTSD. You need to research your claims before putting false claims out there. By the way, I don't like feeling high, but it makes quite a difference for me and how I feel.


OK first of all I happen to know for a fact that it can become an addiction just like any other drug or non-drug related habit (like gambling, sex, texting, or even food which I myself struggle with as a real addiction) so don't even think of trying to win that kind of argument on me.

Secondly I am actually supportive of it being used for legitimate medical purposes and I really don't even care about people using it for recreational purposes regardless of it being legal or illegal (I really am all about live and let live). But my decision to not use it or be trusting of it should be MY CHOICE and I feel like I should have a right to say that out loud without being put down for it.

Frankly I stopped giving a hoot about what the world thinks of my opinions a long time ago because I actually enjoy being a non-conformist and doubting everyone and everything around me. :D



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31 Aug 2016, 9:15 pm

I don't really care for the smell of pot.

But I believe law enforcement wastes valuable time and resources in enforcing marijuana laws.