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28 Aug 2016, 1:03 pm

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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."

When you state "No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.", you are making the assertion that all civilians are as you portray them. That being thinking they're special and entitled not having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat. That sums up your opinion of civilians. Therefore my comment is clearly valid even if it makes you uncomfortable...



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28 Aug 2016, 1:19 pm

pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."

When you state "No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.", you are making the assertion that all civilians are as you portray them. That being thinking they're special and entitled not having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat. That sums up your opinion of civilians. Therefore my comment is clearly valid even if it makes you uncomfortable...


Nope.

Please quote me where I said civilians were "worthless" while soldiers are "great."


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28 Aug 2016, 2:50 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
pcuser wrote:
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pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."

When you state "No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.", you are making the assertion that all civilians are as you portray them. That being thinking they're special and entitled not having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat. That sums up your opinion of civilians. Therefore my comment is clearly valid even if it makes you uncomfortable...


Nope.

Please quote me where I said civilians were "worthless" while soldiers are "great."

I clearly showed you saying civilians are worthless. By implication, you're saying that soldiers are better than civilians. Does that clear it up for you. Picky much???



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28 Aug 2016, 6:38 pm

would it possibly be better if all our pols were picked by lot?



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28 Aug 2016, 8:53 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.


You mean taxpayers? The people footing the bill to house, feed, and equip the entire military?


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29 Aug 2016, 12:07 pm

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I clearly showed you saying civilians are worthless. By implication, you're saying that soldiers are better than civilians. Does that clear it up for you. Picky much???


I say what I mean, and I mean what I say.

If I meant that "civilians are worthless," I would've said precisely that. If you choose to infer that from my words, that's your problem, but I'm not going to sit here and defend statements I never made.

Clearer much?


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29 Aug 2016, 12:08 pm

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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.


You mean taxpayers? The people footing the bill to house, feed, and equip the entire military?


Yup.


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29 Aug 2016, 1:28 pm

pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."

When you state "No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.", you are making the assertion that all civilians are as you portray them. That being thinking they're special and entitled not having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat. That sums up your opinion of civilians. Therefore my comment is clearly valid even if it makes you uncomfortable...


Nope.

Please quote me where I said civilians were "worthless" while soldiers are "great."

I clearly showed you saying civilians are worthless. By implication, you're saying that soldiers are better than civilians. Does that clear it up for you. Picky much???


This is silly. Go back and read this:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=305774&start=585#p7268648

What you see there is an approximate equation, not an inequality.

It looks like this: Military ≈ Civilians

Which has a totally different meaning than what you think you can read in later: Military > Civilians

The idea that civilians and soldiers are "entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat" is pretty much a cornerstone of modern western and global civilization.


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29 Aug 2016, 2:02 pm

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This is silly. Go back and read this:
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopi ... 5#p7268648

What you see there is an approximate equation, not an inequality.

It looks like this: Military ≈ Civilians

Which has a totally different meaning than what you think you can read in later: Military > Civilians

The idea that civilians and soldiers are "entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat" is pretty much a cornerstone of modern western and global civilization.


Pretty much. Thanks, Adam.

To put a finer point on things, the main thrust of my posts is that all of the criticisms that were leveled at service members (and I don't necessarily think all of those criticisms are entirely invalid) are just as equally applicable to civilians.

As a military veteran myself, I just tend to get irked when I see slings and arrows being lobbed at military service as if military service is the only occupation of suspect virtue.


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29 Aug 2016, 2:05 pm

Even if the "cause" is wrong, why must we lambaste the soldiers who actually are forced to go into the "front lines" for this "wrong cause."

It is not they who are espousing the "cause."

It is they who are protecting us civilians, though.



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29 Aug 2016, 2:13 pm

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Support for third-party political candidates will never gain traction in the US.


^This line of thinking is the reason third-party political candidates are not currently gaining traction in the US.



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29 Aug 2016, 2:29 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
Adamantium wrote:

This is silly. Go back and read this:
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopi ... 5#p7268648

What you see there is an approximate equation, not an inequality.

It looks like this: Military ≈ Civilians

Which has a totally different meaning than what you think you can read in later: Military > Civilians

The idea that civilians and soldiers are "entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat" is pretty much a cornerstone of modern western and global civilization.


Pretty much. Thanks, Adam.

To put a finer point on things, the main thrust of my posts is that all of the criticisms that were leveled at service members (and I don't necessarily think all of those criticisms are entirely invalid) are just as equally applicable to civilians.

As a military veteran myself, I just tend to get irked when I see slings and arrows being lobbed at military service as if military service is the only occupation of suspect virtue.

I wish you had said that in the first place. It's quite clear what your meaning is now...



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29 Aug 2016, 6:47 pm

Politicians who become involved in sex scandals should never be given a second chance.


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29 Aug 2016, 6:49 pm

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Politicians who become involved in sex scandals should never be given a second chance.


I'm pretty sure Hillary didn't have a threesome XD


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29 Aug 2016, 6:59 pm

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Politicians who become involved in sex scandals should never be given a second chance.


I'm pretty sure Hillary didn't have a threesome XD


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29 Aug 2016, 9:25 pm

tony the weiner must have a corpus cavernosum in place of his corpus callosum.