Most autistic people are high functioning

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04 Mar 2016, 5:34 am

The average person that met me in real life, would most likely be quite certain I have low functioning autism based on my appearance. But depending on how the term is applied, I am actually high functioning compared to someone who is severely low functioning.



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04 Mar 2016, 8:37 am

I'm pretty sure it was already generally established that there's more people with high functioning ASD (read IQ > 70) than low functioning ASD. Despite that, there's a strong link between intellectual disability and autism.

A handful of small scale studies don't necessarily prove much.

Expanding of the diagnostic criteria in recent times has led to higher diagnosis rate on the milder end of the spectrum rather than exclusively the severe cases.

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04 Mar 2016, 1:04 pm

If someone scores IQ>70 on a standard IQ test, they are considered to have high functioning autism, no matter how weird they appear.

The ones who are really low functioning and mentally retarded wouldnt' score so high on an IQ test, since IQ tests require quite a lot of communication ability.


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04 Mar 2016, 2:59 pm

Some "low functioning autistics" have actually been found to have fairly high IQ's, some in the gifted range. They have severe sensory issues, verbal & motor dispraxi. Carly is a perfect example. She is gifted but very disabled with verbal & motor dispraxi.



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04 Mar 2016, 3:01 pm

Think about Stephen Hawking. I would say he has a fairly high IQ.



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04 Mar 2016, 3:03 pm

It is very unclear to me whether the high IQs of some LFA are genuine.
Some use facilitated communication or other dubious methods like rapid prompting.


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04 Mar 2016, 3:06 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
If someone scores IQ>70 on a standard IQ test, they are considered to have high functioning autism, no matter how weird they appear.

The ones who are really low functioning and mentally retarded wouldnt' score so high on an IQ test, since IQ tests require quite a lot of communication ability.


Some "low IQ" autistics may actuall have normal to high IQ's but need accommodation to test properly as obviously motor dispraxi would hinder thier ability to complete the tests in a timely fashion without accommodation.



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04 Mar 2016, 3:42 pm

The tests were standardised using NT samples. This means that they measure NT IQ using a ruler that is designed to measure NT IQ - and the ruler is not a definitely accurate measure even for the standardised group (as anyone specialising in measuring individual differences knows). The level of error increases to an unknown degree when these rulers are used to measure any other group, and things like savant skills or artistic genius (for example) can't be measured by them at all.
If you look at the whole history of IQ testing it is a complex sociological and politicised history.



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04 Mar 2016, 3:46 pm

germanium wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
If someone scores IQ>70 on a standard IQ test, they are considered to have high functioning autism, no matter how weird they appear.

The ones who are really low functioning and mentally retarded wouldnt' score so high on an IQ test, since IQ tests require quite a lot of communication ability.


Some "low IQ" autistics may actuall have normal to high IQ's but need accommodation to test properly as obviously motor dispraxi would hinder thier ability to complete the tests in a timely fashion without accommodation.


If the accommodation is facilitated communication or rapid prompting, then I cannot believe the result.

Another thing is that the argument is often made that IQ test don't work for autistic people especially LFA.
But if IQ tests don't work, then a high IQ result is as meaningless as a low IQ result.


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04 Mar 2016, 3:49 pm

germanium wrote:
Some "low functioning autistics" have actually been found to have fairly high IQ's, some in the gifted range. They have severe sensory issues, verbal & motor dispraxi. Carly is a perfect example. She is gifted but very disabled with verbal & motor dispraxi.


I am not mad but why was my post which made a similar point get completely ignored?

Just saying...

Anyway I completely agree, people just label autistic people as high or low functioning based on their own expectation. In the medical field, there is actually no such thing high functioning autism as a diagnosis.



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04 Mar 2016, 3:59 pm

auntblabby wrote:
to me, a "high-functioning" AS subject is one who can for the most part pass for [successfully emulate under most circumstances] NT. I have not come close to meeting that standard except for very short periods of time in very lax circumstances, of which occasions I have been described as "presenting well."

Then I would be low function for I don't pass.


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04 Mar 2016, 3:59 pm

So it's more of a social label versus a medical specification of degree of Autism? :?:



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04 Mar 2016, 4:05 pm

Pieplup wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
to me, a "high-functioning" AS subject is one who can for the most part pass for [successfully emulate under most circumstances] NT. I have not come close to meeting that standard except for very short periods of time in very lax circumstances, of which occasions I have been described as "presenting well."

Then I would be low function for I don't pass.

give yourself more time.



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04 Mar 2016, 4:22 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Pieplup wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
to me, a "high-functioning" AS subject is one who can for the most part pass for [successfully emulate under most circumstances] NT. I have not come close to meeting that standard except for very short periods of time in very lax circumstances, of which occasions I have been described as "presenting well."

Then I would be low function for I don't pass.

give yourself more time.

No, Literally I'm PDD-NOS so I'm neither High nor Low Functioning more Medium Functioning. :)


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