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02 Mar 2016, 12:53 pm

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More of us will die with someone like Hillary who believes in eugenics, they will promote the wide scale eugenic culling of children on the spectrum the second they are able to genetically determine it.

Unless you're ISIS then I wouldn't worry about dying in a Trump presidency

You lie just like your man Trump.



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02 Mar 2016, 12:57 pm

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I don't think Trump CAN start WW III, even if he wanted to.

That's why we have a separation of powers: to prevent the President from making arbitrary decisions like that.

That's also why we have the Joints Chiefs of Staff.

I don't think Trump wants to start it, anyway. I think he wants to be a President, and to glory in the glamor of the office. I feel he would be a delegator of tasks, rather than the man to perform the tasks himself. He probably knows he is in over his head, so he'll be inspired to hire qualified people in Cabinet and other governmental posts. I feel Trump wants to live the high life, so WW III really wouldn't be in his best interest.

I don't like it that Trump has gone this far---but I don't believe his attaining the Presidency should necessarily cause fear. We have such a strong system of government that his potential excesses will be dealt with.


Yes, we have a system of government in place with checks and balances as well as a constitution. Now Barack Obama doesn't like that and has pushed it too the limit and maybe that precedent is what scares you about Trump but that's just the chickens coming home to roost.

Trump has had great successes in his life, he's built a great company, has a great family, he owes a lot to America and I don't believe he wants to take over this country to run it into the ground. A man with the ego of Trump would not allow that, he will try to the be the greatest most competent president possible free of any of the chains of the special interests no matter how much they kick and scream.


I don't think you're even listening to yourself. A man with the ego of Trump would not be able to see his own flaws and would be incapable of being the most competent president possible. Trump is only in it because he thinks he's so awesome that he should be president. He doesn't give a rat's ass about making things better. It's a total ego trip. And since your grammar is atrocious, I would assume that you don't know what you're talking about and are probably not a reliable source.


So you're being a grammar nazi now? Alright, I see what we have here. Trump cares more about making this country great against because he's invested in it, he has had success in America, he has employed tens of thousands of people, he actually has something to lose unlike everyone else on that stage. If Trump's ego was so bad he wouldn't be such a great negotiator and he wouldn't be worth billions of dollars which he made honestly unlike the paybacks that have enriched Hillary Clinton and her husband He isn't a career politician who dons the suit of glorified cult leader every few years in between their many cocktail parties and backroom deals with the special interests. Most politicians are lawyers, it's a natural progression and the skills that make a great lawyer(being able to lie with a straight face) also make a great politician. Politicians are in no way politically competent and have any special insight into how to run the world, they only know how the hold on to power not matter what they have to say or do to accomplish that. Trump has been a great executive of a great company, I trust him much more than I do Hillary Clinton or Marco Rubio.


I prefer a politician who knows what KKK and white supremacy are so they don't act like those things don't exist/aren't issues. And he says 'make this country great again' but he's never specific as to what America being great 'again' looks like. I mean what era is he talking before segregation was gotten rid of? Or maybe the early industrial revolution where there were no safety regulations for jobs and no compensation for injuries and such on the job. Thing is there isn't an era that was particularly better than this one for us to recreate in an an attempt to make America great again, our history has it's dark bits.


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02 Mar 2016, 12:59 pm

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More of us will die with someone like Hillary who believes in eugenics, they will promote the wide scale eugenic culling of children on the spectrum the second they are able to genetically determine it.

Unless you're ISIS then I wouldn't worry about dying in a Trump presidency

You lie just like your man Trump.


It's not a lie, Hillary and the Democratic party hold extremist views toward abortion that get dangerously close to eugenics, what do you think is going to happen if they are able to test for it genetically? It's not hard to guess.



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02 Mar 2016, 1:03 pm

I don't know much about American politics, so I can't really tell you.


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02 Mar 2016, 1:08 pm

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I prefer a politician who knows what KKK and white supremacy are so they don't act like those things don't exist/aren't issues. And he says 'make this country great again' but he's never specific as to what America being great 'again' looks like. I mean what era is he talking before segregation was gotten rid of? Or maybe the early industrial revolution where there were no safety regulations for jobs and no compensation for injuries and such on the job. Thing is there isn't an era that was particularly better than this one for us to recreate in an an attempt to make America great again, our history has it's dark bits.


Don't get caught up in false media narratives. Trump is pretty clear on what his platform is which is a)immigration b)trade c)a repudiation of Bush era neoconservatism d)JOBS JOBS JOBS

There has been much better times to be an American, trust me since I grew in the rustbelt I saw first hand the country America use to be and I grew up among the people left behind in city that has been controlled by Democrats mayors since the the 60s and the literal SOCIALIST PARTY USA before that. I've seen how the neighborhoods have changed and it hasn't gotten better, the quality of life of myself and my people(maybe not the same as someone that lives comfortably in some suburb or college town) has taken a nose dive. Something has to be done, Hillary won't do it and it will just more of the same and even worse.

Nobody is really willing to defend Hillary, we have all these Bernie fans that don't seem to understand that process is rigged and he has literally 0 chance of even being on the ballot at the convention in November. It's just not going to happen and the sooner people accept this, the sooner we can actually talk about the real decision that we will have to make between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. It's an easy choice for me, one has successs all their life and whereas the other has been desperately grasping for power for over 30 years in Washington. The Clinton's have been there for so long but they can't even run on their record, it's no contest if you put serious thought into it.



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02 Mar 2016, 4:20 pm

I vow to end my life if Trump wins. If he does, then surely this world is foredoomed.


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02 Mar 2016, 6:05 pm

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More of us will die with someone like Hillary who believes in eugenics, they will promote the wide scale eugenic culling of children on the spectrum the second they are able to genetically determine it.

Unless you're ISIS then I wouldn't worry about dying in a Trump presidency

You lie just like your man Trump.


It's not a lie, Hillary and the Democratic party hold extremist views toward abortion that get dangerously close to eugenics, what do you think is going to happen if they are able to test for it genetically? It's not hard to guess.

And that's a lie. Clinton's views on abortion are mainstream, and she's the only candidate that came out with a humanitarian position on autism.



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02 Mar 2016, 7:11 pm

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More of us will die with someone like Hillary who believes in eugenics, they will promote the wide scale eugenic culling of children on the spectrum the second they are able to genetically determine it.

Unless you're ISIS then I wouldn't worry about dying in a Trump presidency

You lie just like your man Trump.


It's not a lie, Hillary and the Democratic party hold extremist views toward abortion that get dangerously close to eugenics, what do you think is going to happen if they are able to test for it genetically? It's not hard to guess.

And that's a lie. Clinton's views on abortion are mainstream, and she's the only candidate that came out with a humanitarian position on autism.


Which is what? Free abortions for everyone for any reason? It doesn't matter what garbage she might say about it weighing on her heart or if she personally opposes it because she supports abortion on demand which will be used for eugenics with the increasing use of genetic testing. The day they nail it down for Autism is the day we start disappearing from this planet. Pro-abortion is such a weird view for someone on the spectrum, there are a lot of people out there that would rather us be dead and don't think our lives have any value and even worse yet think we are a burden on society.



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02 Mar 2016, 8:42 pm

I don't want him to win, either, to be honest. Trump is a narcissist who only cares about money, money, money! He promises to make America great again, but I think this man is a fraud. He will not keep his promises, and is a bigger bigot than Mel Gibson. And I agree, he will indeed f*** up and cause a nuclear war, perhaps being an even worse president than Warren G. Harding.

Oh, and the only reason his skank daughter even got a job in the first place is because of him. Nepotism at its worst! *facepalm*


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02 Mar 2016, 9:08 pm

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I vow to end my life if Trump wins. If he does, then surely this world is foredoomed.


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02 Mar 2016, 9:40 pm

We will all die if Mr. Trump becomes president. It's an inescapable fact. Some will die horribly. Some will die peacefully. Some will even die of "natural causes". There is no need to explain any further.


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03 Mar 2016, 7:51 am

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I don't think Trump CAN start WW III, even if he wanted to.

That's why we have a separation of powers: to prevent the President from making arbitrary decisions like that.

That's also why we have the Joints Chiefs of Staff.

I don't think Trump wants to start it, anyway. I think he wants to be a President, and to glory in the glamor of the office. I feel he would be a delegator of tasks, rather than the man to perform the tasks himself. He probably knows he is in over his head, so he'll be inspired to hire qualified people in Cabinet and other governmental posts. I feel Trump wants to live the high life, so WW III really wouldn't be in his best interest.

I don't like it that Trump has gone this far---but I don't believe his attaining the Presidency should necessarily cause fear. We have such a strong system of government that his potential excesses will be dealt with.


Only the President has control of the nuclear "football". And he seems to react on impulse. Maybe his plan to have Mexico pay for his wall is to threaten nuclear attack. Under threat of imminent attack is the only reason I can see Mexico would agree to pay for it.


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03 Mar 2016, 12:41 pm

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EXCUSE ME, but my education is not your business! I only stated that Donald Trump is a bad person, and people are idiots for voting for him.And you have the nerve to question my education!? HOW DARE YOU!?




You called Trump's daughter a skank who only got where she was because of nepotism, if you've ever heard Ivanka speak you'd know that she's clearly very educated and well spoken. Ivanka might be running for office sooner than later, she is very impressive. So excuuuuuuse me but people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania is one top business schools in the world and she wasn't graduating with C's like certain former presidents.

As for the rest I can just laugh, Hillary Clinton is a neoconservative who wants to spread "democracy" across the globe and wants to restart the cold war with Russia. She was the worst Secretary of State in history, the entire Middle East is in chaos and she deserves a good part of the blame. She will support ISIS or these "Syrian rebels", she'll bring these "Syrian rebels" to our country as well, I'm sure we can trust them. Trump isn't going to get us bogged down in these stupid wars, he isn't going to pushed into war by the special interests be it Israel or Saudi Arabia. If we go to war under Trump then we will win and it will be paid for but a nationalist knows the countries best interest is to avoid war when at all possible and Trump will do that by repairing our relationship with Russia who has influence over Iran and so many other countries. Trump said he wouldn't take sides in the Palestinian conflict, that it would be his greatest honor to negotiate peace there, this isn't the guy you're trying to scare people about.



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03 Mar 2016, 1:08 pm

I do not believe you.

Also, are you even aware that he wants all immigrants out of this country? He is basically turning America into WWII Germany. It's conservatives like you that make me want to puke!


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04 Mar 2016, 5:18 am

Moderating...

Personal Attacks will not be tolerated. Stick to the issues please and leave each other out of it.

There is no restriction on personal attacks against political figures running for office, but bear in mind that prohibitions on offensive language still apply.



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04 Mar 2016, 10:24 am

Now some of the Demos are entertaining the idea of voting for Trump.

Jim Webb: I won't vote for Clinton, but I may for Trump. http://tiny.iavian.net/98ub

GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! :mrgreen:


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