NZ latest nation to try Universal Income for its citizens

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IF NZ&Canada can do universal income for its people, can't we also?
YES WE CAN!! ! :bounce: 69%  69%  [ 9 ]
NOOO! work that riffraff! :x 15%  15%  [ 2 ]
I dunno. :shrug: 15%  15%  [ 2 ]
gimme a nice yummy gelato! :chef: 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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21 Mar 2016, 4:35 pm

Dillogic wrote:
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That only works when businesses cooperate and give people jobs.


Not enough jobs would be more likely, as jobs by their very design need employees.

Stopping outsourcing overseas and cheap imports to create more working class jobs seems like the best thingy here for countries that utilize places like India and China for these things.

But hey, people want their cheap stuff.


I absolutely agree. But it's the same business people outsourcing jobs for the sake of saving money by paying low wages to third world labor. They should recognize that good wages and benefits are a long term investment into the economy and the American people. Eventually, that investment will see fruition as the economy grows, and Americans have more buying power. Unfortunately, business leaders are more interested in the short term gain.


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21 Mar 2016, 5:32 pm

it'll probably happen when the middle class stops feeling the need to scapegoat the lower class.



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21 Mar 2016, 6:02 pm

auntblabby wrote:
it'll probably happen when the middle class stops feeling the need to scapegoat the lower class.


Should the busy and productive folk stop scapegoating the lazy, unproductive and parasitical?

That latter description applies perfectly to most people in government at the higher, policy and law making levels.


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21 Mar 2016, 6:28 pm

I don't appreciate being called a parasite. look in the mirror first.



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21 Mar 2016, 7:56 pm

BaalChatzaf wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
it'll probably happen when the middle class stops feeling the need to scapegoat the lower class.


Should the busy and productive folk stop scapegoating the lazy, unproductive and parasitical?

That latter description applies perfectly to most people in government at the higher, policy and law making levels.


The notion that the lower class are parasites - even in case of disability, old age, or unemployment - is a cruel stereotype perpetrated by people who they see as too weak as to fight being scapegoated.


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21 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
BaalChatzaf wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
it'll probably happen when the middle class stops feeling the need to scapegoat the lower class.


Should the busy and productive folk stop scapegoating the lazy, unproductive and parasitical?

That latter description applies perfectly to most people in government at the higher, policy and law making levels.


The notion that the lower class are parasites - even in case of disability, old age, or unemployment - is a cruel stereotype perpetrated by people who they see as too weak as to fight being scapegoated.

the people who call us parasites are just bullies.



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21 Mar 2016, 8:02 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
BaalChatzaf wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
it'll probably happen when the middle class stops feeling the need to scapegoat the lower class.


Should the busy and productive folk stop scapegoating the lazy, unproductive and parasitical?

That latter description applies perfectly to most people in government at the higher, policy and law making levels.


The notion that the lower class are parasites - even in case of disability, old age, or unemployment - is a cruel stereotype perpetrated by people who they see as too weak as to fight being scapegoated.

the people who call us parasites are just bullies.


Amen to that.


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25 Mar 2016, 6:33 am