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Have you read Asperger's paper?
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23 Apr 2007, 1:57 pm

I have read it, borrowed Uta Frith's book from a local AS library (yes, a library where all the books are about AS) but wish it was somewhere on the Internet, in English.



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23 Apr 2007, 2:03 pm

Keeno wrote:
I have read it, borrowed Uta Frith's book from a local AS library (yes, a library where all the books are about AS) but wish it was somewhere on the Internet, in English.


Yeah me to and that book is abit expensive for poor aspies I rather find away for all my
aspie brothers to read it for free.

I hand type this:
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Aus der Wiener Universitats-Kinderklinik [Vorstand: Prof Franz Hamburger]

Die ,, Autistischen Psychopathen im Kindesalter
Von
Doz. Dr. Hans Asperger,
Leiter der Heilpadagogischen Abteilung der Klinik
(Eingegangen am 8 Oktober 1943.)

Problemstellung.


And got this on google translator.


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From the Viennese Universitats paediatric clinic [executive committee: Prof Franz Hamburg one] Those, Autisti Psychopathen in the infancy Of Doz. Dr. Hans Asperger, Director/conductor of the Heilpadagogi department of the hospital (Received to 8 Octobers 1943.) Problem definition.



Oh better results when I use "ä".

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Aus der Wiener Universitäts-Kinderklinik [Vorstand: Prof Franz Hamburger]

Die ,, Autistischen Psychopathen im Kindesalter
Von
Doz. Dr. Hans Asperger,
Leiter der Heilpädagogischen Abteilung der Klinik
(Eingegangen am 8 Oktober 1943.)

Problemstellung.




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From the Viennese university University of [executive committee: Prof Franz Hamburg one] Those, Autisti Psychopathen in the infancy Of Doz. Dr. Hans Asperger, Director/conductor of the welfare-educational department of the hospital (Received to 8 Octobers 1943.) Problem definition.


Here I leave the hyphen out between "Universitäts-Kinderklinik"

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From the Viennese university paediatric clinic [executive committee: Prof Franz Hamburg one] Those, Autisti Psychopathen in the infancy Of Doz. Dr. Hans Asperger, Director/conductor of the welfare-educational department of the hospital (Received to 8 Octobers 1943.) Problem definition.



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23 Apr 2007, 2:40 pm

Keeno wrote:
I have read it, borrowed Uta Frith's book from a local AS library (yes, a library where all the books are about AS) but wish it was somewhere on the Internet, in English.


yes, specially Aspergers paper.


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23 Apr 2007, 2:46 pm

I hear its good. I've seen Uta Firths book at the library. I'll have to pick it up. I also like tony attwood's the complete guide to asperger's. He puts quotes by Asperger himself in the front of every chapter. And Its the most comprehensive guide I know of, And asperger's is one of my special interests so I should know :lol:



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23 Apr 2007, 3:11 pm

I just read the first 3 pages translated into English in Uta Frit's book, Autism and Asperger Syndrome, on Google Books. It was only a partial preview. I read a bit about Fritz V., I’d like to read the rest.



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23 Apr 2007, 3:11 pm

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From the Viennese university paediatric clinic [executive committee: Prof Franz Hamburg one] Those, Autisti Psychopathen in the infancy Of Doz. Dr. Hans Asperger, Director/conductor of the welfare-educational department of the hospital (Received to 8 Octobers 1943.) Problem definition. Order and realization of the structure of the things are one the latter Goals of the science. In the abundance of the features of the life, those full contrasts are, those with blurring borders in each other it ignores, seeks thinking humans thereby firm conditions point to find that he gives a name to the individual features it defines the things against the other features, connections, ähnlieb keiten and contrasts determines, briefly, into an order, into a system brings. This work is a substantial condition of the It knowing.


Oh ähnlieb keiten maybe one word and I can not read the last letters. I tried many things but none translated.

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Aus der Wiener Universitäts Kinderklinik [Vorstand: Prof Franz Hamburger]

Die ,, Autistischen Psychopathen im Kindesalter
Von
Doz. Dr. Hans Asperger,
Leiter der Heilpädagogischen Abteilung der Klinik
(Eingegangen am 8 Oktober 1943.)

Problemstellung.

Ordnung und Erkenntnis des Aufbaues der Dinge ist eines der letzten
Ziele der Wissenschaft. In der Fülle der Erscheinungen des Lebens, die
voller Gegensätze sind, die mit verschwimmenden Grenzen in einander
übergehen, such der denkende Mensch dadurch einen festen Stand punkt zu finden, daß er den einzelnen Erscheinungen einen Namen gibt
sie abgrenzt gegen die anderen Erscheinungen, Zusammenhänge, ähnlieb keiten und Gegensätze feststellt, kurz, die Dinge in eine Ordnung, in ein System bringt. Diese Arbeit ist eine wesentliche Voraussetzung des
Er Kennens.


I had a very hard time staying focus on this German so no way I can do the entire 61 pages this is merely to the first paragraph on the first page.



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23 Apr 2007, 3:17 pm

I'm sure the english translation of this text is just at the net, although I don't know where,
And, in fact, nothing substitutes the original texts.


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23 Apr 2007, 3:33 pm

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr= ... cg-HGt_C6A

You can read a few pages there.


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Asperger died before his identification of this pattern of behaviour became widely recognized because his work was mostly in German and little-translated. The first person to use the term "Asperger's Syndrome" in a paper was British researcher Lorna Wing. Her paper, Asperger's syndrome: a clinical account, was published in 1981


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorna_Wing

You can read her paper here:

http://www.mugsy.org/wing2.htm



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23 Apr 2007, 6:23 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
You can read a few pages there.


Very thanks, the beggining of the article is there.


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23 Apr 2007, 6:30 pm

Neuromancer wrote:
Thanks everybody.
In fact I had read this text once at the net, where it should be much more available for me, but I lost its site. I want to translate this paper to portuguese, once there is few information about aspies in my language, and very much misinformation about it.
And I really believe every aspie should read this definitory text.


There entire paper is available online? Wow, that's pretty long.


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23 Apr 2007, 8:36 pm

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There entire paper is available online? Wow, that's pretty long.

I believe so, and I think I read it, but I really don't know where. In fact my memory is really bad, but I have it in my mind, and I read today the begining of the text and felt it very feew for anyone to make his own diagnosis.

(I like your nick and liked a lot when you used it together with Mr Beam photograph :-) )


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23 Apr 2007, 8:46 pm

Ah, surprised you remembered my Mr. Bean avatar. :D

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24 Apr 2007, 10:21 am

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Ah, surprised you remembered my Mr. Bean avatar. :D

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YESSSS, great! And I used to look to your face and say:
when I grow up I will be like him: a professor of pedantry !


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24 Apr 2007, 11:12 am

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Thanks for the adress, but I registered at Gestalt as Muad'Dib but can't log in there, although I'm very sure I know the right password (that is the same here).
I tryed to register again there, but the message told me my mail adress was used by a member, meaning that my previous try of registering succeeded. Do you know what can I do in order to log in there ?


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24 Apr 2007, 12:55 pm

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Sophist wrote:
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Thanks for the adress, but I registered at Gestalt as Muad'Dib but can't log in there, although I'm very sure I know the right password (that is the same here).
I tryed to register again there, but the message told me my mail adress was used by a member, meaning that my previous try of registering succeeded. Do you know what can I do in order to log in there ?


I'll delete you account so you can re-register with that email. :)


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24 Apr 2007, 12:56 pm

There ya go. You can re-register now. :)


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