Is it time for religions to accept evolution?

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05 Apr 2016, 11:18 am

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So?

They still accept that "evolution" (in the general sense of meaning "gradual change over time") occurred which contradicts Genesis. So that would still would be an example of "a religion accepting evolution".

No, inserting god into the theory makes it something else.



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05 Apr 2016, 1:20 pm

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Pope John Paul II was a PhD-level scholar in philosophy. He was a professor of philosophy.

I don't believe he thought that evolution was incompatible with Catholicism.

The Catholic church doesn't really believe in evolution. They insert god in the process, which is not a necessary part of it.


Well, they believe in a theistic evolution, which is what I also believe in.


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05 Apr 2016, 1:38 pm

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Well, they believe in a theistic evolution, which is what I also believe in.

There is no such scientific theory.



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05 Apr 2016, 2:45 pm

AspE wrote:
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Well, they believe in a theistic evolution, which is what I also believe in.

There is no such scientific theory.


Why do you keep hammering away at an irrelevant point?

Were not talking about whether or not they teach biology correctly in sunday school.

Were talking about whether or not religions allow the faithful to be open to the notion of an ancient earth that gradually changed over time in some kind of evolutionary process- rather than to continue to indoctrinate the faithful into believing nonsense about the Earth being only 6000 years old.

If a Catholic puts god into evolution at church, but is still allowed to remove god while studying fossils as a scientist and to seek only naturalistic explanations then thats perfectly fine.



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05 Apr 2016, 3:07 pm

My point is just that the Church does not in fact endorse the prevailing scientific opinion on evolution.



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05 Apr 2016, 4:00 pm

AspE wrote:
My point is just that the Church does not in fact endorse the prevailing scientific opinion on evolution.


Exactly!

It's not the church's job to "endorse" scientific theories.

Just like it's not their job to suppress, or oppose scientific theories either.



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05 Apr 2016, 4:09 pm

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I do not think that you should not force a groups beliefs on anyone.


The question is not should outsiders force religions to accept something.

Its "whether or not religions can survive if they continue to tie themselves to nonsensical beliefs like YECism?"



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05 Apr 2016, 5:41 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
AspE wrote:
My point is just that the Church does not in fact endorse the prevailing scientific opinion on evolution.


Exactly!

It's not the church's job to "endorse" scientific theories.

Just like it's not their job to suppress, or oppose scientific theories either.

They can surely say whatever they want. But let's not pretend they have a modern worldview.