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Are cats better than humans?
Yes 58%  58%  [ 15 ]
No 23%  23%  [ 6 ]
Dunno 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 26

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29 Apr 2007, 8:26 pm

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I adore cats, and always will. When I was a teen, my mother had a mean boyfriend who forced me to get rid of my 8 cats. I would have killed him, if I could. So in your comparison of humans and cats, I'd say he came out the loser. He was sub-human! :evil:

He sounds like a bastard. My step-dad doesn't really like cats that much I don't think but there's no way in hell he'd ever be allowed to make me get rid of Flo, my mum loves her too. :D
Anyone who forces someone to get rid of one cat, never mind eight, is just evil.


His excuse was because we were moving house, and he thought the cats would "mess up the new place." He forced me to abandon them at our old house. One of them found me, though, and I refused to give her up. The memory of those other cats haunt me to this day, though. :cry:


So you just left them behind at your old house?! You did take them to an animal shelter right?
At least they'd have the chance of finding a good home!


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29 Apr 2007, 8:57 pm

The question is a bit silly. What does "better" mean? Two perspectives come to mind, though I'm sure there are very many more.

1) The biological perspective. Biologically, a species can be said to be "better" than another species if it has a better chance to avoid extinction. I would guess that the chance that 1 million years from now there will be living descendants of current cats is considerably greater than the chance there will be living descendants of current humans. Humans are well on their way to be the first ever in the history of life on Earth to cause the extinction of their own species. The human traits that are the cause of this are not present in cats, so unless humans kill all cats before they do themselves in, cats will probably turn out to be the "better" species.

2) My personal perspective. "Better" then simply means "more in accordance with my values". Now, most cats behave more in accordance with my values than most humans. But I've also met some truly obnoxious cats and quite a few perfectly alright humans.

So I must vote "Yes" then, representing a "probably Yes" and a "mostly Yes".


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29 Apr 2007, 9:10 pm

yvan_eht_nioj wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
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hartzofspace wrote:
I adore cats, and always will. When I was a teen, my mother had a mean boyfriend who forced me to get rid of my 8 cats. I would have killed him, if I could. So in your comparison of humans and cats, I'd say he came out the loser. He was sub-human! :evil:

He sounds like a bastard. My step-dad doesn't really like cats that much I don't think but there's no way in hell he'd ever be allowed to make me get rid of Flo, my mum loves her too. :D
Anyone who forces someone to get rid of one cat, never mind eight, is just evil.


His excuse was because we were moving house, and he thought the cats would "mess up the new place." He forced me to abandon them at our old house. One of them found me, though, and I refused to give her up. The memory of those other cats haunt me to this day, though. :cry:


So you just left them behind at your old house?! You did take them to an animal shelter right?
At least they'd have the chance of finding a good home!


As a fourteen year old, I did not have a lot of autonomy or resources to take the cats anywhere. This tyrant person that my mom was seeing, also liked to beat people with a belt who "talked back". Ah, memories...


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29 Apr 2007, 9:31 pm

They sure like to think so.
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30 Apr 2007, 1:00 am

Well, cats would only be superior in the human context if they fought a war to conquer us, then turned us all into either zoo animals or house pets. Or worse, make us into slaves and then be forced to mine the caves of Felix cat food. Oh, the smell...



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30 Apr 2007, 1:14 am

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Well, cats would only be superior in the human context if they fought a war to conquer us, then turned us all into either zoo animals or house pets. Or worse, make us into slaves and then be forced to mine the caves of Felix cat food. Oh, the smell...


They have done both, you'd see that if you were smarter.



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30 Apr 2007, 1:15 am

Hmmm. Well, compared to several species, humans don't measure up.


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30 Apr 2007, 1:18 am

willem wrote:
The question is a bit silly. What does "better" mean? Two perspectives come to mind, though I'm sure there are very many more.

1) The biological perspective. Biologically, a species can be said to be "better" than another species if it has a better chance to avoid extinction. I would guess that the chance that 1 million years from now there will be living descendants of current cats is considerably greater than the chance there will be living descendants of current humans. Humans are well on their way to be the first ever in the history of life on Earth to cause the extinction of their own species. The human traits that are the cause of this are not present in cats, so unless humans kill all cats before they do themselves in, cats will probably turn out to be the "better" species.

2) My personal perspective. "Better" then simply means "more in accordance with my values". Now, most cats behave more in accordance with my values than most humans. But I've also met some truly obnoxious cats and quite a few perfectly alright humans.

So I must vote "Yes" then, representing a "probably Yes" and a "mostly Yes".


Humans are far less durable than cats. Hypothetically speaking: if you threw a human out of a ten story window they would be dead, whereas if a cat was thrown out of one they could not only survive the fall, but do so with minimal injury



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30 Apr 2007, 3:28 am

willem wrote:
The question is a bit silly. What does "better" mean? Two perspectives come to mind, though I'm sure there are very many more.

1) The biological perspective. Biologically, a species can be said to be "better" than another species if it has a better chance to avoid extinction. I would guess that the chance that 1 million years from now there will be living descendants of current cats is considerably greater than the chance there will be living descendants of current humans. Humans are well on their way to be the first ever in the history of life on Earth to cause the extinction of their own species. The human traits that are the cause of this are not present in cats, so unless humans kill all cats before they do themselves in, cats will probably turn out to be the "better" species.

2) My personal perspective. "Better" then simply means "more in accordance with my values". Now, most cats behave more in accordance with my values than most humans. But I've also met some truly obnoxious cats and quite a few perfectly alright humans.

So I must vote "Yes" then, representing a "probably Yes" and a "mostly Yes".

It was meant to be an 'in general' question.



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30 Apr 2007, 4:49 am

Yeah. But it doesn't say too much good about cats.



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30 Apr 2007, 4:50 am

ahayes wrote:
Humans are far less durable than cats. Hypothetically speaking: if you threw a human out of a ten story window they would be dead, whereas if a cat was thrown out of one they could not only survive the fall, but do so with minimal injury


Have you tried? I know that there's a height beyond
which cats no longer land on their feet, so I'd
guess that they wouldn't do too well, on the landing.



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30 Apr 2007, 4:52 am

I started this thread due to the other one from a few days ago about whether you would die for your cat. There were people on there saying that humans aren't animals and humans are 'superior' to cats. Therefore I wanted to see how many more lunatics there were on here, and I'm pleased to see more have voted Yes than No. So far.



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30 Apr 2007, 5:09 am

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I adore cats, and always will. When I was a teen, my mother had a mean boyfriend who forced me to get rid of my 8 cats. I would have killed him, if I could. So in your comparison of humans and cats, I'd say he came out the loser. He was sub-human! Evil or Very Mad


i inn no way hate cats but i just do`t care for them as pets my mom has 2 cats and well i pet them when i am at home but i woude not want one myself.

and if my girlfriend had 8 cats and we were to move inn togther i think that is just to many and woude atleast have har reomove half.

not to be mean or anything but ther is a reason they call it crazy cat ladys. i don`t have anything against cats but keep it inn moderation (2-3 cats at most)


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30 Apr 2007, 5:16 am

i wrote the above postt befor i realised ther are 2 more pages to this thread.

and seriously i love pets too but to spend th hole day with your cat wile not generaly not having human contact well i just find that to be sad.

i understand that aspies have problems socialiseing i do to, but a human friend is weay better then any pet can ever be. and just cause something is difficult is no reason to hide away and give up.


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30 Apr 2007, 5:16 am

Xan wrote:
i inn no way hate cats but i just do`t care for them as pets my mom has 2 cats and well i pet them when i am at home but i woude not want one myself.

and if my girlfriend had 8 cats and we were to move inn togther i think that is just to many and woude atleast have har reomove half.

not to be mean or anything but ther is a reason they call it crazy cat ladys. i don`t have anything against cats but keep it inn moderation (2-3 cats at most)

The crazy cat lady is a stereotype. Some old women with lots of cats are crazy. Some old women with no cats are crazy too. There is no correlation between number of cats and level of craziness.
If I really loved someone then I wouldn't make them get rid of their pets, even if they had a tarantula or something, I would learn to live with it because I would know that I would want them to do the same with Flo. If someone has 8 cats and they were made to leave them behind for their relationship with a human, then that relationship is either doomed from the start, or they are both disgustingly repulsive people.



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30 Apr 2007, 5:18 am

Xan wrote:
i wrote the above postt befor i realised ther are 2 more pages to this thread.

and seriously i love pets too but to spend th hole day with your cat wile not generaly not having human contact well i just find that to be sad.

i understand that aspies have problems socialiseing i do to, but a human friend is weay better then any pet can ever be. and just cause something is difficult is no reason to hide away and give up.

I don't choose cats over humans because I find it difficult to socialise with humans. Yes, I do find it difficult, but even if I found it easy, I wouldn't want to. Cats are a million times better than humans. I'd rather have one cat as a friend than ten human friends. In my opinion, most people who socialise mainly with humans are incredibly 'sad.'