Trump will not self fund GE campaign

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05 May 2016, 1:03 pm

Donald J. Trump made a stunning reversal today... He is stating he will no longer keep to the promise of self funding his General Election Campaign.
He will work with donors and the RNC to raise money to fight Hillary going forward.


He and Sanders were the only two candidates this cycle who promised in the beginning to not take donor money.
Trump actually kept his promise through primary season, outlasting Sanders at that promise (yes Bernie has been taking donor money for a long while this primary season).

Trump has stated publicly today there is nothing wrong with accepting donor money since Bernie does it!

Trump now joins The Butcher of Benghazi and The Villain of Vermont in donor funded campaigns.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/artic ... d-campaign


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05 May 2016, 4:21 pm

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Out of the 21 presidential candidates, Sanders is one of five who doesn’t have an affiliated super PAC. Sanders’ qualifier -- "virtually" -- makes his claim more accurate.

If we narrow the count to major candidates, only Sanders and Trump can claim that, but both have two unaffiliated super PACs backing their candidacy. Trump has appeared at a fundraiser for one super PAC that’s also received donations from his in-laws. Sanders, meanwhile, has disassociated himself with these groups, through statements and legal action.

We rate Sanders’ claim Mostly True.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... es-withou/

Note: I've read that Republicans claim this website to be biased since they site Republican errors in the truth 3 times more often than Democrats.


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06 May 2016, 11:48 am

RoadRatt wrote:
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Out of the 21 presidential candidates, Sanders is one of five who doesn’t have an affiliated super PAC. Sanders’ qualifier -- "virtually" -- makes his claim more accurate.

If we narrow the count to major candidates, only Sanders and Trump can claim that, but both have two unaffiliated super PACs backing their candidacy. Trump has appeared at a fundraiser for one super PAC that’s also received donations from his in-laws. Sanders, meanwhile, has disassociated himself with these groups, through statements and legal action.

We rate Sanders’ claim Mostly True.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... es-withou/

Note: I've read that Republicans claim this website to be biased since they site Republican errors in the truth 3 times more often than Democrats.

GOP does claim that.
But... Sanders says it's Pro Hillary and favors her.


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06 May 2016, 3:34 pm

xenocity wrote:
GOP does claim that.
But... Sanders says it's Pro Hillary and favors her.


Got anything to back up that claim with?

You spout off a lot of so called "facts" about Sanders that just aren't even anywhere near the truth.

I'm still waiting for a linked article or video showing Sanders to be this woman hating, worse than Trump candidate you claim that he is...

I wouldn't vote for anyone who dislikes groups of people as much as Trump does. Bernie is a people person, he doesn't hate women, minorities, etc., etc., etc. .

As usual, if you have some proof that he is this big hater that you claim that he is. Please post it, I'll take a look. :P


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06 May 2016, 4:49 pm

RoadRatt wrote:
xenocity wrote:
GOP does claim that.
But... Sanders says it's Pro Hillary and favors her.


Got anything to back up that claim with?

You spout off a lot of so called "facts" about Sanders that just aren't even anywhere near the truth.

I'm still waiting for a linked article or video showing Sanders to be this woman hating, worse than Trump candidate you claim that he is...

I wouldn't vote for anyone who dislikes groups of people as much as Trump does. Bernie is a people person, he doesn't hate women, minorities, etc., etc., etc. .

As usual, if you have some proof that he is this big hater that you claim that he is. Please post it, I'll take a look. :P

I read it on Reddit, which is the biggest source of Sanders support on the internet.
The whole site is opposed to everyone else.

They claim fact checking organizations are against him.
Other sites claim too.

Bernie said last month numerous times that Hillary was unqualified to be president and inferred it was due to to her being a woman.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why ... of-sexism/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/ ... qualified/

Many of his supporters have invaded other candidates rallies and have on social media proudly claimed to have turned away minorities from voting to prevent Clinton from winning

You do know there is a Bernie hashtag created by Bernie supporters and backed by the campaign called #BernieMadeMeWhite
This is made for black voters who vote for Sanders.

Also this editorial sums up why Sanders and his campaign don't care for black voters or the work to win them over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

Hell Bernie has even stated in numerous TV interviews that he doesn't need the black voters to "win" and that black voters don't know any better than to vote for Clinton.

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Sanders’ Congressional career is no bed of roses either. Sanders voted for the same 1994 crime bill that saw the number of incarcerated black Americans skyrocket. His opposition to large waves of gun control legislation has directly endangered American lives just as surely as Bill Clinton’s bowing to a Republican Congress did.

Sanders, too, has spent large chunks of the last eight years opposing America’s first black President – calling for him to face a primary challenge in 2012, voting against his attempt to close Guantanamo in 2009. The small number of African Americans who have endorsed Sanders have tended to be hyper-critical of Obama – like Cornel West, or Killer Mike.



Yes Sanders voted for the same 1994 crime bill he accuses Hillary of passing into law.
Yes He has opposed every piece of Gun Control legislation including the last bill that was put up in December 2012 after the Sandy Hook shooting.
Yet he attacks Clinton for doing more for Gun Control.
He also doesn't like Obama as a president joining the GOP opposition against him.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/el ... ry-clinton

Even the NRA is one of his biggest supporters for his whole political career.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

Bernie also famously said this in the Flint Democratic Debate.
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"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto, you don't know what it's like to be poor," Sanders said.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ern-213707


Here are articles detailing how horrible Sanders supporters are, especially even being racist, sexist and attacking the poor.

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The worst trait of fundamentalists is their insistence that anyone who’s not on board with their revolution is part of a coordinated conspiracy to silence and suppress that revolution. You can watch in real time as any progressive public figure who refuses to openly endorse Sanders – whether or not they also endorse Clinton – gets bombarded by wave after wave of accusations of being on the take.


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Hell, even when the Sanders campaign does something unambiguously and unarguably bad, like when one of their staffers gets caught accessing Clinton campaign data and is summarily fired for it, you hear Sanders people grumbling about how that staffer came from the Democratic National Convention and may possibly have been a plant.


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It’s a problem when a movement cannot accept criticism or dissenting views. When Sarah Jeong, a journalist and Bernie Sanders supporter, said she saw racist comments on Twitter linked to a #FeelTheBern account, a mob of trolls tried to chase her off the internet. Another woman, who said she personally likes and identifies with Hillary Clinton, was sent death threats. These are not isolated cases.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -berniebro

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Sanders’s predominately white backers are targeting black activists and journalists who dare question the candidate’s civil rights record.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/postever ... -problems/


These are the true Bernie supporters called Berniebros, who Bernie has openly embraced and caters too with his campaign.
They are heavily going after anyone who isn't willing to commit to Bernie or goes against him.
They are also the majority of his supporters.

Bernie just refuses to condemn any racism, sexism and other bad behavior from his campaign and supporters.
He just avoids the issue and stays silent or attacks others for their campaign and supporters behavior.


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06 May 2016, 11:39 pm

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I read it on Reddit, which is the biggest source of Sanders support on the internet.
The whole site is opposed to everyone else.

Bernie said last month numerous times that Hillary was unqualified to be president and inferred it was due to to her being a woman.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why ... of-sexism/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/ ... qualified/


Nope, not true. This was at a time when Hillary was ramping up her rhetoric against Bernie after he had won several primaries in a row. He did say that he felt she was unqualified to be president but, if you take the time to look up the video, nowhere in it does he say that she is unqualified to be president because she is a woman, nor has he ever said that.

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Also this editorial sums up why Sanders and his campaign don't care for black voters or the work to win them over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html


The Washington post is a Hillary donor and post as many negative articles about him as they can. They can't be trusted to tell the truth since they donate to Hillary.

Sanders would never say he doesn't care about voters of any race, color or creed. That's just not Bernie.

It's very obvious to me that you believe all the propaganda out there that is against Bernie. Here is what Bernie is about, the real Bernie. He is being interviewed by Killer Mike, a black rapper. I doubt you'll take the time to watch it. But I'll post it anyway. I know it is a bit lengthy. But take the time to watch some of it if you can, because it's more real than any of the polished bullsh*t establishment candidates will ever be.



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Hell Bernie has even stated in numerous TV interviews that he doesn't need the black voters to "win" and that black voters don't know any better than to vote for Clinton.


Got any to post? I looked on YouTube for some but to no avail, so I don't believe they exist. Besides, if they did exist Hillary would be using them against him now and they would be easily found. But if you can post one up, I'll take a look at it.

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Even the NRA is one of his biggest supporters for his whole political career.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html


The Washington post lies about Bernie.

The truth is the NRA has never actively supported Sanders. They campaigned against his rival in '90 because that person came out in favor of banning assault weapons. They never even coordinated their efforts with Sander's campaign at the time.

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Neither a ‘gun-lobby lapdog’ nor an ‘anti-gunner’

The Clinton campaign also noted that the NRA helped elect Sanders to the House of Representatives in 1990. While it’s true that Sanders and the gun lobby were on the same side in that election, their alignment was temporary.

The NRA backed Republican incumbent Peter Smith in his 1988 race against Sanders. But Smith didn’t stick to his guns and came out in favor of an assault weapons ban after he won.

Feeling betrayed, the gun group spent $18,000 attacking the incumbent in 1990 and issued bumper stickers emblazoned with images of Smith as Pinocchio and "Dump Pete Smith," Garrison Nelson, a professor of state politics at the University of Vermont previously told PolitiFact.

Paul Blackman, a former NRA research associate, told us in 2015 that while Sanders wasn’t exactly pro-gun and the NRA wasn’t explicitly pro-Sanders, he seemed like the lesser of two evils.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... argely-ve/

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Bernie also famously said this in the Flint Democratic Debate.
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"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto, you don't know what it's like to be poor," Sanders said.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ern-213707


That is true, you don't know what it's like. Of course, PC social media types twisted it all about to make it look bad. Bernie doesn't hate black people!

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These are the true Bernie supporters called Berniebros, who Bernie has openly embraced and caters too with his campaign.


Berniebros are a myth that has been debunked long ago, catch up!


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07 May 2016, 12:46 pm

The Washington Post is actually owned by conservative GOP member.
It's widely known for being conservative GOP rag.

You should also post links, especially not from a pro Hillary fact checking site.

Bernie very much doesn't understand non white people and unintentionally makes racist comments, including attacking the poor minorities.

Do yourself a favor and quit drinking Bernie's koolaid and open your eyes to what he really does.

I don't like or support any of the Candidates running, I'm just sick of the free pass Bernie gets and his supporters getting away with doing horrible stuff.

Bernie and his supporters are far worse than the establishment has been in the past 20 years.


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07 May 2016, 3:39 pm

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Do yourself a favor and quit drinking Bernie's koolaid and open your eyes to what he really does.


I told you never to tell me what to do EVER again.

I will debate with you all you like. It's pretty clear that you hate Bernie. And, no. I don't hate you or anyone else for disliking Bernie. I just can't figure out how people can hate the most honest candidate in the race, that is all.

If you ever do respond to my posts again. Keep it civil or I will be forced to involve the mod staff. Something I hate to do but I won't be told by any person EVER about what I need to do.

Last warning.


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08 May 2016, 4:10 pm

Bernie Sanders in 1963 chained to two black civil rights protesters, at least one of them being a woman. It has been verified as authentic by the photographer who took this film footage and pictures that it is indeed Bernie Sanders.

http://www.snopes.com/sanders-civil-rights-photos/

If he hated Blacks and Women so much, he wouldn't have risked his life in the 60's protesting alongside them.


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12 May 2016, 11:03 am

Trump never was going to self fund his campaign. He has been lending his campaign money to operate. By 'lending', he can repay himself from donations. That means he never had any idea of self funding anything. He is and always has been a fraud...



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12 May 2016, 11:51 am

The ruling class in this country are prepared to spend billions to defeat Trump, which campaign finance as it is impossible to self-fund a general election campaign with the many down ballot races. Trump can't self-fund the entire Republican party, it is out of control with the amount of money pouring in. They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars already against Trump in the primary, he's won against all odds with the entire political and media establishment against him.



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12 May 2016, 12:09 pm

Fickle.

I wonder if he'll discriminate autistic people in anyway. Whether he does or not, we'll remind everyone that America is the home of the brave.