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14 Jun 2016, 12:20 pm

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If you believe that desecrating the flag is ok, why are you even an American citizen?

I'm not an American citizen.

This is another thing I just love....other countries getting involved in American politics. Live here and you have a say which is a "vote". People here say that if you don't vote then you shouldn't have input. IN MY OPINION, if you don't live in America, then you don't have an opinion that matters either.

It doesn't matter what my opinion is. What matters is the opinion of the United States Supreme Court.

Flag desecration isn't just "ok" in the United States of America... It is a constitutional right.



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14 Jun 2016, 12:23 pm

Idiots who desecrate the American flag do more of a disservice to their own movement than actually help, those images matter. Burn American flags and wave Mexican flags, see what the majority of American thinks about that come November.



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14 Jun 2016, 12:41 pm

GGPViper wrote:
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If you believe that desecrating the flag is ok, why are you even an American citizen?
I'm not an American citizen.
This is another thing I just love....other countries getting involved in American politics. Live here and you have a say which is a "vote". People here say that if you don't vote then you shouldn't have input. IN MY OPINION, if you don't live in America, then you don't have an opinion that matters either.
It doesn't matter what my opinion is. What matters is the opinion of the United States Supreme Court. Flag desecration isn't just "ok" in the United States of America... It is a constitutional right.
It's sad, but true. The fact is that no one can get arrested for merely desecrating our flag; but they can get arrested for Disturbing the Peace, Public Defecation, Public Urination, and Starting an Open Fire Without a Permit ... among other things.


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14 Jun 2016, 12:47 pm

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why you always lyin'

Michael Reagan is a not so popular conservative talking head, he does not own any of his father's legacy. No one likes the Bushes or definitely Romney which is exactly why Trump is the GOP nominee.


Disagreeing is not the same thing as lying.


xenocity lies so much and purposely misrepresents things to invent his own narratives, him trying to convince people there is this massive resistance to Trump in the GOP is just not a reflection of reality and fundamental misunderstanding of the GOP electorate which has explicitly rejected the party of Bush. Trump has more base support than Mitt Romney, this is a fact.


Xenocity backs up his statements with multiple sources. So again just because you don't agree with what he writes doesn't mean he's lying. And he's right more often than not.

Your first statement is actually a pretty good description of yourself come to think of it. :lol:


no he doesn't

he might format his posts like he does but he doesn't source hardly anything and if he does it is in a manipulative way

not an honest debater which is why I don't bother much with his posts


I've asked you for sources before and got nothing. Again you've been far more dishonest in these arguments. You keep claiming Hillary is a criminal despite knowing she has never even been charged with a crime yet alone convicted. You've said that what she did was as bad as Petreyus, when it doesn't even compare. And most of all you repeat all of Trumps easily fact checkable lies.

It's not a formatting issue Xenocity actually provides links. Did you miss the ones included in the last post. Sorry but the facts are not on your side on this.


Nope, you're wrong. I am the most honest and thorough on this forum, I do not feel the need to MLA format my posts, I post plenty of sources but I'm not doing your homework for you. No source will be good enough and not biased, there is no point and it's just a diversionary tactic. It's not my fault that you don't consume as much information on the subject as me, I read a lot of everything by everybody.


Hahahahaha!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

My, don't you have a high opinion of yourself. I don't want you to do my homework you just need to do a better job at yours.



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14 Jun 2016, 12:54 pm

I won't be impressed till he breaks out the flag outfit Apollo Creed wore in Rocky 4:

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Really, he should just use that entrance at all his rallies.


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14 Jun 2016, 1:06 pm

Fnord wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
If you believe that desecrating the flag is ok, why are you even an American citizen?
I'm not an American citizen.
This is another thing I just love....other countries getting involved in American politics. Live here and you have a say which is a "vote". People here say that if you don't vote then you shouldn't have input. IN MY OPINION, if you don't live in America, then you don't have an opinion that matters either.
It doesn't matter what my opinion is. What matters is the opinion of the United States Supreme Court. Flag desecration isn't just "ok" in the United States of America... It is a constitutional right.
It's sad, but true. The fact is that no one can get arrested for merely desecrating our flag; but they can get arrested for Disturbing the Peace, Public Defecation, Public Urination, and Starting an Open Fire Without a Permit ... among other things.


There is also a reason why these flag burnings are only done in the middle of violent unruly mobs, they're not so courageous without their buddies.



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14 Jun 2016, 1:09 pm

I support the right of "flag burning", because I don't want cede an inch of free speech to the government.



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14 Jun 2016, 1:11 pm

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I support flag burning, because I don't want cede an inch of free speech to the government.


"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." Or something like that.



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14 Jun 2016, 1:16 pm

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Hahahahaha!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

My, don't you have a high opinion of yourself. I don't want you to do my homework you just need to do a better job at yours.


FWIW I write most of posts from memory, I do not go back and search for past articles that I have read. I'll source something when it's relevant and needs to be sourced, I don't feel the need to appeal to authority on the issue as I don't have a lot of respect for the media or the university studies or anything like that, what do you need me to source? Like it upsets you what I have said about Hillary Clinton, it is my opinion that she and her husband are criminals and Hillary's email business is like getting Al Capone on taxes. I see her as the epitome of Washington corruption, if there ever has been a bought and paid for politician for Wall Street and the interests of big business then it is Hillary Clinton. Look at the massive amount of foreign money that poured into the Clinton Foundation and tell me there was no pay for play, the Clinton's are valued at 9 figures and they weren't worth anything when they left office so it seems a little weird to me but maybe that's just me. I am really curious to hear these golden voice speeches she gave to the banks and whoever else over the years to acquire this massive wealth.

Apply the same moral litmus test you've been applying to Trump to Hillary Clinton and I think anybody that is honest with themselves will see Trump as the better option.



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14 Jun 2016, 1:22 pm

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I support the right of "flag burning", because I don't want cede an inch of free speech to the government.


I'm not saying that flag burning is illegal, I'm saying that anyone who is a flag burner should go live somewhere else if they do not support their country. It is because of the freedom in America and free speech that they can do their little flag burning in the first place.


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14 Jun 2016, 1:35 pm

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Hahahahaha!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

My, don't you have a high opinion of yourself. I don't want you to do my homework you just need to do a better job at yours.


FWIW I write most of posts from memory, I do not go back and search for past articles that I have read. I'll source something when it's relevant and needs to be sourced, I don't feel the need to appeal to authority on the issue as I don't have a lot of respect for the media or the university studies or anything like that, what do you need me to source? Like it upsets you what I have said about Hillary Clinton, it is my opinion that she and her husband are criminals and Hillary's email business is like getting Al Capone on taxes. I see her as the epitome of Washington corruption, if there ever has been a bought and paid for politician for Wall Street and the interests of big business then it is Hillary Clinton. Look at the massive amount of foreign money that poured into the Clinton Foundation and tell me there was no pay for play, the Clinton's are valued at 9 figures and they weren't worth anything when they left office so it seems a little weird to me but maybe that's just me. I am really curious to hear these golden voice speeches she gave to the banks and whoever else over the years to acquire this massive wealth.

Apply the same moral litmus test you've been applying to Trump to Hillary Clinton and I think anybody that is honest with themselves will see Trump as the better option.


Same here. Most of what I write is from memory. It just so happens mine is pretty good. It doesn't upset me when you say things about Hillary. Why would it? you're usually wrong anyway. :wink: Jk

I'm being consistent with the standards I'm using to judge the candidates and by every measure Hillary comes out on top. And before you say anything yes I'm being honest with myself.



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14 Jun 2016, 2:08 pm

You're giving credence to every accusation made against Mr. Trump but completely waving off the 40 years worth against the Clinton's. It's not wrong to say they've been above the law, there is plenty evidence to that and this FBI investigation may be the most clearest. What was so bad that David Petreuas did? He showed his mistress(who wasn't just some bimbo but rather active reserve that had top secret clearance) some classified information from a notebook that was locked in a desk drawer in his house. He opened himself up to potential blackmail but in the end his issue was getting involved with women he shouldn't of gotten involved with rather than putting national security at risk which Hillary most definitely did. The Russians hacked her email, they have the emails, she was compromise 100%. How can Petraeus be chased from public life but Hillary be elected president?

Hillary purposely set up a private email system to skirt open government laws, openly disobeyed the order to turn in all of her emails, and has stonewalled investigators every step of the way despite her insistent claim that she's an open book with nothing to hide which I guess that didn't include her underlings. The Clinton's have shown that they will lie to the face of the American people, that is their greatest legacy as president. There is a serious question of public corruption when it comes to the Clinton Foundation, don't you agree that there may of been a conflict of interest going on when Hillary was Secretary of State and was receiving huge donations from outside this country. People don't give away money without expecting something in return, there is always something they get out of it. I don't think Hillary has ever inspired anybody, she is supported because she supports corporatist state which does the biddings of Wall Street/Silicon Valley/and the Belt Way.



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14 Jun 2016, 2:13 pm

WAHHHH HOW DARE HE HUG THE AMERICAN FLAG KEEP HIS HATE ACTIONS OFF THIS COUNTRY WAHHHH!! !
Just another anti-Trumper who hates America!! !



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14 Jun 2016, 2:17 pm

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You're giving credence to every accusation made against Mr. Trump but completely waving off the 40 years worth against the Clinton's. It's not wrong to say they've been above the law, there is plenty evidence to that and this FBI investigation may be the most clearest. What was so bad that David Petreuas did? He showed his mistress(who wasn't just some bimbo but rather active reserve that had top secret clearance) some classified information from a notebook that was locked in a desk drawer in his house. He opened himself up to potential blackmail but in the end his issue was getting involved with women he shouldn't of gotten involved with rather than putting national security at risk which Hillary most definitely did. The Russians hacked her email, they have the emails, she was compromise 100%. How can Petraeus be chased from public life but Hillary be elected president?

Hillary purposely set up a private email system to skirt open government laws, openly disobeyed the order to turn in all of her emails, and has stonewalled investigators every step of the way despite her insistent claim that she's an open book with nothing to hide which I guess that didn't include her underlings. The Clinton's have shown that they will lie to the face of the American people, that is their greatest legacy as president. There is a serious question of public corruption when it comes to the Clinton Foundation, don't you agree that there may of been a conflict of interest going on when Hillary was Secretary of State and was receiving huge donations from outside this country. People don't give away money without expecting something in return, there is always something they get out of it. I don't think Hillary has ever inspired anybody, she is supported because she supports corporatist state which does the biddings of Wall Street/Silicon Valley/and the Belt Way.


Sorry but restating all of your opinions of Hillary won't change my view. I've already heard them all anyway. Besides much of what you say isn't borne out by the facts but I've said that before as well.



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14 Jun 2016, 2:59 pm

Aieee for the love of Pete quite the stacked mega quoting you guys!

I am not sure why this is such a "news flash". Or why it is "meltdown". I would say it was just an impulsive grandiose actions he is well known for. Not fake. Being over the top on things isnt a sign of faking. Only a sign of ego and enjoying the spotlight. I don't. I wouldn't do it.
If you don't like him or it, it has no meaning anyway. And through years of interviews Trump has ALWAYS says he loves America and is worried about it. And that is factual, easily backed by years of his presence in media.

I also have a loathing close to true hate for flag burners and the disrespect it shows. Hate the govt? well boycott and pickett that.

But hate the Country and symbols of? Well what is keeping you from leaving?
The door to nearest s**thole is there to the south. Or you can go to EU and enjoy your socialist dream and the lack of opportunity of common sorts that it has with that. Hope you break above your taxes. If you can even pass vetting of the immigration VISA. Maybe go thru Syria first. Good luck with that



I am not sure if I would like Trump in the Apollo Creed outfit <_<. He is a guy for tailers stuff , specially as he is not so young anymore. Not even when he was a young fella. I definitely don't want too see Hillary in it. Or Bernie *shudder!sorry Bernie undead is not a good look* Nor skinny arse Obama. Nor Bush-any of them. Actually no one for last few decades >_<. Though if I could see anyone come out boxing to "Living in America" it would be Trump. he is just flashy that way.

By the way ... doesn't Mitt Romney kinda glare the same same was as Dolph in that movie? Must be the haircut.


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14 Jun 2016, 3:20 pm

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You're giving credence to every accusation made against Mr. Trump but completely waving off the 40 years worth against the Clinton's. It's not wrong to say they've been above the law, there is plenty evidence to that and this FBI investigation may be the most clearest. What was so bad that David Petreuas did? He showed his mistress(who wasn't just some bimbo but rather active reserve that had top secret clearance) some classified information from a notebook that was locked in a desk drawer in his house. He opened himself up to potential blackmail but in the end his issue was getting involved with women he shouldn't of gotten involved with rather than putting national security at risk which Hillary most definitely did. The Russians hacked her email, they have the emails, she was compromise 100%. How can Petraeus be chased from public life but Hillary be elected president?

Hillary purposely set up a private email system to skirt open government laws, openly disobeyed the order to turn in all of her emails, and has stonewalled investigators every step of the way despite her insistent claim that she's an open book with nothing to hide which I guess that didn't include her underlings. The Clinton's have shown that they will lie to the face of the American people, that is their greatest legacy as president. There is a serious question of public corruption when it comes to the Clinton Foundation, don't you agree that there may of been a conflict of interest going on when Hillary was Secretary of State and was receiving huge donations from outside this country. People don't give away money without expecting something in return, there is always something they get out of it. I don't think Hillary has ever inspired anybody, she is supported because she supports corporatist state which does the biddings of Wall Street/Silicon Valley/and the Belt Way.


Sorry but restating all of your opinions of Hillary won't change my view. I've already heard them all anyway. Besides much of what you say isn't borne out by the facts but I've said that before as well.


I don't agree with that but I'll agree to disagree. Hopefully this will take care of itself and you won't need me to change your views on Hillary Clinton, it's multifaceted to me in that I genuinely support Donald Trump for president but also consider the Clinton's the epitome of Washington corruption and a continuation of the incompetent/deliberate policies of the past that has found us deep in debt, our national security at risk, and our place in the world severely compromised. I believe Hillary must be stopped and that we are so lucky to actually have a candidate like Donald Trump who represents real change from the Washington status quo with a real chance at the White House at the same time.