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20 Jun 2016, 10:55 am

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If it's legal, what about "second-hand smoke"?

There are people who work jobs in which -- by state law-- they cannot have any "dope" in their bodies.

For example, "school bus drivers" get random drug tests, and are fired if there is any trace of dope in their bodies.


I see no reason why, except for medical marijuana, the same restrictions against smoking tobacco in public should not be used. Over time people will realize and accept medical marijuana is more than getting high, and hopefully will amend or adjust for trace amounts.

In the case of a bus driver (etc.) it would be the same as would be the case of alcohol consumption.

I see no reason why, except for medical marijuana, the same restrictions against smoking tobacco in public should not be used. Over time people will realize and accept medical marijuana is more than getting high, and hopefully will amend or adjust for trace amounts.

Any more suggestions?

Your response does not address the concern though.

Let's say you work as a school bus driver, and right before your afternoon shift, on your lunch break, you catch a wiff of second-hand pot, and as a non-smoker you have very low tolerance , will your judgement be impaired ?

Has that second-hand smoke just put the lives of children at risk?


My hope is now there is a "camel's nose under the tent", so to speak, there will finally be meaningful research done followed by enough public education so politicians will be able to forward bills/laws that take common sense into account, and actually we're beginning to see that happen now.

The hate built up against marijuana happened over many years and will take many more to eradicate. I wish it were sooner but you know they say "If wishes were horses then paupers would ride." I'll be patient.



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20 Jun 2016, 11:01 am

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Do you guys want a cheap alternative to gasoline? One that is much safer? Well legalization of cannabis and hemp are somewhat tied together, even though industrial hemp doesn't contain THC, or it does in such a minute amount. Also, cannabis can be legalized like how it is in Jamaica. You can smoke it in your house, on your property, in a hotel room, but not out in public.


Get my car high while driving - - I'm all for that! :lol:


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20 Jun 2016, 11:25 am

ZenDen wrote:
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Do you guys want a cheap alternative to gasoline? One that is much safer? Well legalization of cannabis and hemp are somewhat tied together, even though industrial hemp doesn't contain THC, or it does in such a minute amount. Also, cannabis can be legalized like how it is in Jamaica. You can smoke it in your house, on your property, in a hotel room, but not out in public.


Get my car high while driving - - I'm all for that! :lol:


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20 Jun 2016, 1:56 pm

i'm for it too. especially decriminalization if not full on legalization.

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We haven't dona a bang up job with tobacco and alcohol legal, why add yet another society burdening vice? and it will end up burdening society.

nope we didn't do a bang up job with alcohol illegal. that's when more than 10,000 people died from consuming unregulated, improperly distilled alcohol. prohibition was a disaster.

luckily, weed is not even close as dangerous as alcohol, and death by weed alone is nearly impossible. criminal organizations will still make their money selling hard drugs like coke and meth and otherwise regular people can indulge in pot like otherwise regular people indulge in booze. humans like mind altering substances and that's never going to change, but what can change is drug governance in tandem with acceptable drug use.



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20 Jun 2016, 2:33 pm

The main political reason for opposing marijuana is to protect Big Pharma profits. But legalizing at least medical marijuana has a lot of bipartisan support now.

I am ok with it being legal, but I probably won't partake in recreational use unless it doesn't involve lighting an open flame (aside from birthday candles, I get nervous around open flames)


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21 Jun 2016, 12:24 am

All drugs should be legal no exceptions, if you can't handle it and off yourself then the gene pool got a little stronger



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21 Jun 2016, 1:03 am

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Nope, not a supporter. Because people in general are stupid. We haven't dona a bang up job with tobacco and alcohol legal, why add yet another society burdening vice? and it will end up burdening society.

I definitely say let a few states be the guinea pigs for a 15 year study and if it all looks Grreat? have votes again for nationwide ban lift


I'd say our justice system is currently more of a burden to society than cannabis could be...do you support money going to keep people locked up for using marijuana because that is the result of having it illegal.


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21 Jun 2016, 1:48 am

Misslizard wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
ZenDen wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
If it's legal, what about "second-hand smoke"?

There are people who work jobs in which -- by state law-- they cannot have any "dope" in their bodies.

For example, "school bus drivers" get random drug tests, and are fired if there is any trace of dope in their bodies.


I see no reason why, except for medical marijuana, the same restrictions against smoking tobacco in public should not be used. Over time people will realize and accept medical marijuana is more than getting high, and hopefully will amend or adjust for trace amounts.

In the case of a bus driver (etc.) it would be the same as would be the case of alcohol consumption.

I see no reason why, except for medical marijuana, the same restrictions against smoking tobacco in public should not be used. Over time people will realize and accept medical marijuana is more than getting high, and hopefully will amend or adjust for trace amounts.

Any more suggestions?

Your response does not address the concern though.

Let's say you work as a school bus driver, and right before your afternoon shift, on your lunch break, you catch a wiff of second-hand pot, and as a non-smoker you have very low tolerance , will your judgement be impaired ?

Has that second-hand smoke just put the lives of children at risk?

There's weed out there strong enough to get someone stoned from just a whiff?!?Where?Sounds like some good s**t.lol
I doubt anyone is going to get f****d up from just smelling pot.The unfairness of drug tests is that THC stays in the body for weeks after smoking.So someone could fail a pee test from smoking a doobie on their day off.That's not going to impair their driving on Monday morning.


If it was legalized nationally the drug test wouldn't test for pot...also yeah I want to find some of this stuff that gets you stoned with one whiff, that would have to be some really good s**t.


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21 Jun 2016, 3:18 am

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All drugs should be legal no exceptions, if you can't handle it and off yourself then the gene pool got a little stronger


Exactly. I work in restaurants, I'm unusual for not being stoned all the time at work while working with knives and open flames in a high pressure environment, and nothing bad ever comes of it, aside from the occasional dude starring a little too intensely at the veg he's prepping and getting behind before service. My shop is actually considered a very clean one, since we only drink and smoke pot instead of shooting up in the walk ins and snorting coke in the bathrooms. For those who haven't worked in kitchens, that's often the scene at the nice restaurants, don't ask about the shitty ones, it's just that kind of industry.


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21 Jun 2016, 3:40 am

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Also, I personally, don't want to be around "dopers".

I don't want to have to inhale the stuff.

In my state, we banned cigarette smoking in every public area except casinos.


This - for me. The stuff stinks.


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21 Jun 2016, 3:50 am

beakybird wrote:
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If it's legal, what about "second-hand smoke"?

There are people who work jobs in which -- by state law-- they cannot have any "dope" in their bodies.

For example, "school bus drivers" get random drug tests, and are fired if there is any trace of dope in their bodies.


You can't assume there'd be pot smoke everywhere if it's legalized. You can't just walk around drinking in most places. You can't smoke tobacco just anywhere. So this bus driver would have to be at someone's house or in a pot friendly establishment in order to be exposed.


I have nurse coworkers that go outside and smoke and no one says anything even though it's a no smoking campus. Should the same then go for marijuana? I think the surgeons should all take a few whiffs before cutting into people too. And I sure could use a couple hits before a long 12 hour shift to deal with my drugged up patients who keep coming to the damn hospital for dilaudid and expect me to be their private duty drug dealer.


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21 Jun 2016, 4:10 am

Jacoby wrote:
All drugs should be legal no exceptions, if you can't handle it and off yourself then the gene pool got a little stronger


I think they're is a reason why I'm about the only one who thinks pot shouldn't be legal. When I was in my younger days, I used it a couple times and had paranoia out the ass so it can have adverse affects. Some think alcohol use will decrease, but what will probably happen is people will use both together. I think a person needs to actually be around a druggie and take care of them to know what a problem they can be on society. We've seen what has happened with the hydrocodone and Heroin problem and because of it narcan is being sold to laypersons where narcan is supposed to be given only by professionals to people who are in respiratory depression or arrest and not by children who are now learning how to administer the drug. I'm also tired of taking care of druggies who come to the hospital when they've had a bad trip taking away MY time from real sick people - this includes alcoholics. It's a little too late to do anything about alcohol now.

You legalize Marijuana then what? People are going to want to legalize other harder drugs after that. People know pretty much what they are getting with alcohol and it flushes out of the system pretty quickly. What about these other drugs?

And doesn't pot come laced with other stuff? I remember my friend getting some that was like black tar - what the hell was that? I must have been a real doofus to smoke that crap. Was it hashish? Anyone know?


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21 Jun 2016, 4:16 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
ZenDen wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
If it's legal, what about "second-hand smoke"?

There are people who work jobs in which -- by state law-- they cannot have any "dope" in their bodies.

For example, "school bus drivers" get random drug tests, and are fired if there is any trace of dope in their bodies.


I see no reason why, except for medical marijuana, the same restrictions against smoking tobacco in public should not be used. Over time people will realize and accept medical marijuana is more than getting high, and hopefully will amend or adjust for trace amounts.

In the case of a bus driver (etc.) it would be the same as would be the case of alcohol consumption.

I see no reason why, except for medical marijuana, the same restrictions against smoking tobacco in public should not be used. Over time people will realize and accept medical marijuana is more than getting high, and hopefully will amend or adjust for trace amounts.

Any more suggestions?

Your response does not address the concern though.

Let's say you work as a school bus driver, and right before your afternoon shift, on your lunch break, you catch a wiff of second-hand pot, and as a non-smoker you have very low tolerance , will your judgement be impaired ?

Has that second-hand smoke just put the lives of children at risk?

There's weed out there strong enough to get someone stoned from just a whiff?!?Where?Sounds like some good s**t.lol
I doubt anyone is going to get f****d up from just smelling pot.The unfairness of drug tests is that THC stays in the body for weeks after smoking.So someone could fail a pee test from smoking a doobie on their day off.That's not going to impair their driving on Monday morning.


If it was legalized nationally the drug test wouldn't test for pot...also yeah I want to find some of this stuff that gets you stoned with one whiff, that would have to be some really good s**t.


Alcohol is legal and the drug tests test for alcohol. Some companies randomly test for drugs and alcohol is a part of that test. I got drug tested for my job. Just because a drug is legal doesn't mean it's exempt from drug tests.


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21 Jun 2016, 4:20 am

Dox47 wrote:
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All drugs should be legal no exceptions, if you can't handle it and off yourself then the gene pool got a little stronger


Exactly. I work in restaurants, I'm unusual for not being stoned all the time at work while working with knives and open flames in a high pressure environment, and nothing bad ever comes of it, aside from the occasional dude starring a little too intensely at the veg he's prepping and getting behind before service. My shop is actually considered a very clean one, since we only drink and smoke pot instead of shooting up in the walk ins and snorting coke in the bathrooms. For those who haven't worked in kitchens, that's often the scene at the nice restaurants, don't ask about the shitty ones, it's just that kind of industry.


Wth? Don't tell me - the Olive Garden is like that too? Chef Ramsey wouldn't go for that surely?! 8O


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21 Jun 2016, 5:08 am

Dox47 wrote:
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All drugs should be legal no exceptions, if you can't handle it and off yourself then the gene pool got a little stronger


Exactly. I work in restaurants, I'm unusual for not being stoned all the time at work while working with knives and open flames in a high pressure environment, and nothing bad ever comes of it, aside from the occasional dude starring a little too intensely at the veg he's prepping and getting behind before service. My shop is actually considered a very clean one, since we only drink and smoke pot instead of shooting up in the walk ins and snorting coke in the bathrooms. For those who haven't worked in kitchens, that's often the scene at the nice restaurants, don't ask about the shitty ones, it's just that kind of industry.


I used to work in the kitchen in the commons of Gonzaga University. I don't recall anyone getting stoned when I was at work, but that doesn't mean it never happened. Then again, the commons at a college might not be comparable in every way to a regular place of business' kitchen.


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