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24 Jun 2016, 8:32 am

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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...
After 240 years, the British government finally understands what the (ex-)colonists were talking about! :salut:



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24 Jun 2016, 8:44 am

The Brexit was mostly a reaction against globilazation. They have not, cannot escape that.

This will only make things worse for those people.


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24 Jun 2016, 8:45 am

Fnord wrote:
After 240 years, the British government finally understands what the (ex-)colonists were talking about! :salut:


As I recall, the debates about Brexit did not involve slavery, the unwillingness to foot the bill for the Seven Years' War or theft of land from the indigenous population...



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24 Jun 2016, 8:47 am

GoonSquad wrote:
The Brexit was mostly a reaction against globilazation. They have not, cannot escape that. This will only make things worse for those people.
Things were pretty rough for the Thirteen States during the first hundred years or so. Give 'em time ...

Who knows? Maybe the U.K. will have to ask the Taoseach for a bail-out!

:lol: :lol: :lol:



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24 Jun 2016, 8:50 am

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As I recall, the debates about Brexit did not involve slavery, the unwillingness to foot the bill for the Seven Years' War or theft of land from the indigenous population...
True, but they did involve British mom-and-pop stores having to conform to rules made in Brussels or go out of business, footing the bill for immigrants from the war in the Middle East, and the "acquisition" of land from the British population by those same foreign immigrants ... yeah ... not the same at all ... :wink:


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24 Jun 2016, 9:27 am

Independence from ....what exactly?

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24 Jun 2016, 10:14 am

GoonSquad wrote:
The Brexit was mostly a reaction against globilazation. They have not, cannot escape that.

This will only make things worse for those people.

The globalists are punishing us for leaving through the markets, and ironically the same markets that the remain campaign have spent their life saying is the big bad boogeyman.

But it won't last forever. England, and whoever wants to remain part of Britain, will prevail.


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24 Jun 2016, 10:26 am

if you say so, good luck with that
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24 Jun 2016, 10:29 am

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Independence from ....what exactly?
Oh, just the oppression and exploitation of the United Kingdom by the European Union, that's all. Imagine being forced to abide by the same rules as everyone else, and being forced to share the burden of immigrant refugees, as well.

:roll: Is my sarcasm showing?



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24 Jun 2016, 10:32 am

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The globalists are punishing us for leaving through the markets, and ironically the same markets that the remain campaign have spent their life saying is the big bad boogeyman...
Not really ... the "globalists" are just scared that their investments in the E.U. and the U.K. are about to take a tumble, so they're pulling out.

And yes, Great Britain shall prevail! :salut:



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24 Jun 2016, 10:47 am

Calling it independence almost seems like a mental illness. Like a paranoid schizophrenic thinking everyone is getting them. Not to mention what seems like throwing a tantrum, the UK's situation seems almost like the lone autistic kid who's in a corner all the time...



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24 Jun 2016, 10:50 am

If the Brits were able to handle the blitz and fighting Nazi Germany practically alone they will handle whatever the bankers do to try and make them reconsider. At times the degree of political correctness and socialist certainty of certain segments of that society annoy me but when the fish and chips are down they find a way to survive and do it with the eccentricity that I find so endearing. Tough Tough Tough people they are.


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24 Jun 2016, 11:02 am

Fnord wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
The Brexit was mostly a reaction against globilazation. They have not, cannot escape that. This will only make things worse for those people.
Things were pretty rough for the Thirteen States during the first hundred years or so. Give 'em time ...

Who knows? Maybe the U.K. will have to ask the Taoseach for a bail-out!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Really? What alternate reality did you learn American history in.

The revolution was largely a rebellion against mercantilism. We WANTED to be part of the global economy. Also, we had a vast, nearly depopulated continent to export our poor to (go west, young man and all that).
That was all a huge windfall that the empire was keeping us from.

The only thing that really limited the US was the federal government's refusal to invest in internal development until after the civil war.

I'd say the first 100 years was a golden age.


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24 Jun 2016, 12:47 pm

GoonSquad wrote:
The Brexit was mostly a reaction against globilazation. They have not, cannot escape that.
This will only make things worse for those people.

What is it that the EU does that they can't do for themselves?



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24 Jun 2016, 1:02 pm

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If the Brits were able to handle the blitz and fighting Nazi Germany practically alone ...
<* cough *> ... Lend-Lease ... <* cough *>



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24 Jun 2016, 1:03 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
The Brexit was mostly a reaction against globilazation. They have not, cannot escape that.
This will only make things worse for those people.

What is it that the EU does that they can't do for themselves?




Well, the EU lowers trade barriers that might actually be helping them keep jobs.

Apparently, Mars UK employs a bunch of people and the EU is a huge market for them. If barriers go up thanks to Brexit, as they most certainly will, Mars UK might become Mars France or Mars Germany...


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