DNC chairwomen resigning over email scandal

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26 Jul 2016, 2:58 pm

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Lol, what I find funny is that you're continuing to do this, and it's to your candidate's detriment. Again, you have more to gain by stepping aside and letting the left hash out the topic since it will create division, but if you want to galvanize support around Hillary, continue on...


You can wishful think all you want, people should see Hillary and her VP for who they are. I don't think it makes too much of a difference here on WP, this post gets ignored if I don't post in it!

Leaks aren't over, just you wait!

I never said they were over.

You're more than welcome to post here...keep the Donald story coming, I like it, it helps distract from the actual topic-- hell forgot what it was already.

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To illustrate my point Jacoby, this is from the Washington Post:

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Pew asked those consistent Sanders supporters whom they support in the general election. Ninety percent said they back Hillary Clinton.

That's lower than the percentage of consistent Clinton supporters who back Clinton, which isn't a surprise. It's higher than the percentage of those who'd switched who now back Clinton, though only barely.

Last week, as the Republican convention was going on, Pew offered similar research about the Republicans. Of the 44 percent of the party that never supported Donald Trump, 79 percent were planning on backing him in the general election — lower than the percentage of Sanders supporters backing Clinton, but still nearly 8 in 10.

So why so much outrage in Philadelphia? Delegates to party conventions are not normal members of political parties. Part of the objection to Hillary Clinton stems from a sense that she doesn't adhere to principles important to more-liberal Democrats.


You're trying to "peel" to your side, but that's not where the vast majority of Bernie supporters are. A lot was made of the Trump or Bernie people in the primary, well news flash they all went Republican already and voted for Donald in the Republican primary. The leftovers you think you're trying to persuade are never Donalds, they're split between swallowing the vomit and voting for Clinton to make sure Donald doesn't get in, or voting their conscience for someone like Jill Stein or even Gary Johnson. That's why I say, continue on, as a possible Stein voter your arguments are having an impact on me and I'm seeing things a bit more clearly now.



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26 Jul 2016, 6:41 pm

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Hillary is a mercenary, paid by the special interests. She's from wherever they say she's from. Sometimes that's Arkansas, sometimes NYC, sometimes Pennsylvania, sometimes Illinois, it all depends on who she is pandering to at that given moment. She literally changes her accent!

At least they are American special interests!



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26 Jul 2016, 6:53 pm

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26 Jul 2016, 7:03 pm

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The same Saudi's that bailed out Trump in the '90's?
http://fortune.com/2016/01/29/donald-trump-saudi-prince/

Mind you, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Alsaud is not the ruler of Saudi Arabia, but he is a high ranking prince inside the monarchy.

edit: best part of tearing apart Trump is that it's super easy and requires little research-- dude has staked out all sides on every issue.



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26 Jul 2016, 7:11 pm

bought a yacht from and partnered with in a casino venture ≠ bailed out

quite a bit different than Hillary's concerning connections, total red herring

Hillary is corrupt!

Bernie isn't the man people thought he was, his campaign was looking for a private jet as 'payment' for dropping out and supporting Hillary. Controlled opposition from the start, he was never supposed to challenge Hillary like he did but that is a testament to her unpopularity.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... vate-plane



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26 Jul 2016, 7:15 pm

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Bernie isn't the man people thought he was, his campaign was looking for a private jet as 'payment' for dropping out and supporting Hillary. Controlled opposition from the start, he was never supposed to challenge Hillary like he did but that is a testament to her unpopularity.


Wow, that's what you got out of that-- more like "negotiated" (as stated in the article) not "demanded" and the point was to keep his ideology relevant into the general election, not as "payment" (which was never uttered or even alluded to in the article). No wonder you have a problem seeing the inconsistencies with Trump, I have a feeling you may have a problem with reading comprehension.



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26 Jul 2016, 7:22 pm

The person who is left standing about many knockouts on the part of both sides will emerge victorious.

Lots of crap will reveal itself over the coming months.

Not much substance will reveal itself, though. Just continuous mudslinging. Nothing of substance will be discussed. Only reactionary things.

This campaign sucks!

I wish it were 1960 again!



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26 Jul 2016, 7:32 pm

It's much closer to the truth than what you said about Trump being 'bailed out' by the Saudis. I have a feeling you don't like information that hurts your feels and I don't care! With that said: Bernie is sell out, Bernie is a sell out, Bernie is a sell out! If he was a revolutionary like he so claims then he would not support Hillary but he's been controlled opposition from the start! Imagine if Hillary actually faced a credible opponent in the primary with some backbone, she loses for sure I think but Bernie filled the role he was supposed just a little too well but you're mistaken if you think they are all die hard socialist ideologues rather than in large part anti-Hillary voters. Bernie is old and tired, doesn't want to be remembered as a spoiler even tho he is supporting the most corrupt corporate backed candidate in history. The establishment won in the DNC, their control has not loosened but Trump has defeated them in the GOP, their is only one choice if you want change in this country.

I appreciate your advice to stay away but I can't resist twisting the knife, if you implying I am scaring you into the possibility that Trump will win then good! The psychological warfare is already working, real power is only what your opponent thinks you have. The DNC is really really bad at this, they have Trump's name and face all over their campaign and they try to scare people with all these what ifs about if he were president but that's already associating the presidency with Trump inside people's minds! This is WP anyways so who cares, half the people here that get their panties in a bunch about Trump aren't even from this country and can't vote.



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26 Jul 2016, 7:35 pm

LOL.....the more people rail about Trump, the more enamored of Trump you seem to be.

I guess you find him sort of an "underdog" because he's not part of the "establishment."

At this point, this election is totally, totally up in the air.

Whoever screws up the least, or who others screw with the least, will win.

Sort of like the Thrilla in Manila.