What's the difference betewwn High and Low Functioning AS?

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05 May 2007, 1:01 pm

What's the difference between High Functioning AS and Low Functioning AS? I'm not too sure where I fall on the scale. I function well in some ways and not too well, in other ways.



05 May 2007, 1:16 pm

I think low functioning AS would be an aspie who is unable to take care of themselves and live a normal life because they will always need assistance. They are unable to hold down a job because they are so effected by it in some areas it keeps them from having a job.


A high functioning AS is able to hold down a job and live a normal life and they can do things on their own with no help like normal people can.


I feel low functioning because of my learning problems and I probably will never be as successful as Temple Grandin or Laine Holliday Willey. I have heard about lot of aspies going to college and getting a degree and succeeding in their majors and I look at myself and wish I was like them.



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05 May 2007, 1:35 pm

likedcalico wrote:
I feel low functioning because of my learning problems and I probably will never be as successful as Temple Grandin or Laine Holliday Willey. I have heard about lot of aspies going to college and getting a degree and succeeding in their majors and I look at myself and wish I was like them.


sheesh! I have a degree but will never be like Temple Grandin or Laine Holliday Willey, either!

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05 May 2007, 2:13 pm

I think Likedcalico's definitions sound right. What I find interesting the more AS people I meet is how there is such a vast difference among the higher functioning. Like some will be able to hold down a job and drive yet they are difficult to communicate with so you still see signs of low functioning among those labeled high functioning.

But what about the ones that go to college and work for their parents, but still lives with parents and his mom leads him around like a 2 yr old in town? I know someone like that. I consider him low functioning, yet at the same time he is in college. I think there is a huge grey area within the definitions.



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05 May 2007, 2:22 pm

That doesn't surprise me that there would be a huge gray area. Assuming I am an aspie, I think I'm generally really high-functioning, although at the same time I turn to a few people (like my mom) when dealing with something unusual to come up. I can cope fine with my regular everyday life, but when big changes come about...not so much sometimes.



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05 May 2007, 2:27 pm

Ticker wrote:
I think Likedcalico's definitions sound right. What I find interesting the more AS people I meet is how there is such a vast difference among the higher functioning. Like some will be able to hold down a job and drive yet they are difficult to communicate with so you still see signs of low functioning among those labeled high functioning.

But what about the ones that go to college and work for their parents, but still lives with parents and his mom leads him around like a 2 yr old in town? I know someone like that. I consider him low functioning, yet at the same time he is in college. I think there is a huge grey area within the definitions.


From what I saw in like wikipedia, etc... AS people are supposed to have self help skills!

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05 May 2007, 2:27 pm

FUNCTION and INTELLIGENCE are two completely different things.
Thought I would throw this out there.

I know with High Functioning Autism it doesn't necessarily mean you can do everything it generally means you are above or at normal IQ level. Low functioning is close to that of mental retardation. Most AS is co-morbid to HFA thus being on the Autism spectrum.

However, if saying that High Functioning Asperger's is dependent on not your intelligence but your ability to function most of us would be low functioning or on the lower end of the scale as it seems the higher your intelligence the harder it is to fit into current society. Once you've reached a level above the level below that everyone else is becomes garbled nonsense and you often find these necessities and social ritual a) unnecessary or b) "too simple" to understand.

Than again, that IS Aspergers isn't it?

So all in all, I don't think there IS a High or Low function in aspergers as AS is what I said before, on the high end of Autism.



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05 May 2007, 2:36 pm

agentcyclosarin wrote:
FUNCTION and INTELLIGENCE are two completely different things.
Thought I would throw this out there.

Correct. Although there is no Low Functioning AS. There should be but the definition of AS is High functioning ASD. AS in above 80 IQ. But really I wish they would take into consideration the deficiencies. Purely because it puts some people stuck in limbo in a s**t situation. ‘Spectrum’ is always going to be a vast oversimplification anyway.



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05 May 2007, 2:51 pm

Also I wish they wouldn't come up with such dumb phases in the first place. They should put a bit of thought into it before they name a diagnostic criteria.



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05 May 2007, 8:39 pm

I would say that, under that description, I'm probably medium to high functioning. I can hold down a job and have four college degrees, but I don't drive and am not sure I will ever have a romantic relationship. As I have said, my abilities are not on the scale of a Temple Grandin, a Liane Holliday Willey or a Roger Bannister, but I have improved greatly over the years.



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05 May 2007, 9:53 pm

Probably a lot of anxiety.



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05 May 2007, 10:01 pm

Well, I hope I'll one day be able to hold down a job and live an independent life without much help. Right now it's hard to say where I fall because I haven't worked on achieving either yet.


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06 May 2007, 7:33 am

By those definitions, I'd likely be around medium functioning vs. high functioning. I have a hard time keeping jobs, I'd definitely not do living alone with me and the boys without support. I have a degree in network admin and all but I have hard time putting knowledge I learned in school and all into practical use and all so it makes things difficult as well as the ADHD on top of things and having a higher level of executive dysfunction. Two years of university living in dorms was a rough challenge as especially where I was 3 hours car drive from home. I often went home on weekends my first year vs. staying in residence. I lived otherwise with my parents till I was 26 and had met my SO and he was the first other person that I lived in the same house with that I had to share my personal space with and it's been a struggle at times.



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06 May 2007, 8:09 am

I feel very much in the middle too, I have real trouble with work and people in general, but anything else I can do on my own, I feel best all be myself, I learn real easy, but cant take social situations at all.



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06 May 2007, 8:22 am

All I’m good at is worrying and punching trees….

Where does that put me on the 'trum?