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31 Aug 2016, 1:57 pm

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At the risk of being called a silly acronym, denying white privilege is racism. Experiments have been done submitting job applications with white names and black names, with equal qualifications. The applications with black names are far less likely to get a call.
Also check this s**t out:


These people don't think they are racist either, but the very different reaction to a white guy stealing a bike vs. a black one says it all.

So even if I don't believe blacks are inferior, I also have to accept that I get special privileges because I'm white, even when this is not my experience, or I'm still a racist? No, that is not how racism works.

You know what I like about the video? There is a black woman who admits that she also assumed he wasn't stealing the bike, and that it was based on his race. "Young white men don't usually carry burglary tools." This is f*****g gold. She was the only one in the video who admitted to judging the guy based on his race, yet still it's the white people who are labeled racist, even when they said his color had nothing to do with it. Amazing. I wonder if that means that the experimenters were biased in favor of black people?

To be honest, I agree with the black woman. Young black males are insanely more likely to commit crimes than young white males, and I assume she knows this from firsthand experience. Also, they say they were dressed the same, but the black guy had on baggy pants and a lopsided hat, whereas the white guy simply had a backwards baseball cap on, and a regular t-shirt and jeans. Those details do matter.

Even if all that was wrong and all the people were racist, it still does not demonstrate white privilege. Try looking up the definition of a privilege before you start saying I have white privilege, all based on some cherry-picked and clearly biased social experiment, where only a few people were tested.

If you love black people so much and feel so bad for them, why don't you leave us privileged whities alone, go find some people of color, and tell them all about your white power - oh, that's right, "privilege". I'm sure they will love you telling them about how whites are superior in America.

Black cops and black people are also subject to the same forces as all the nice white people in the video, who aren't explicitly racist. No one is saying they are secret KKK members, just that they all have internalized a culture of white privilege that has a double standard. Why don't you admit you don't give a crap about understanding the issue, you just want to feel offended that someone suggested you personally are a racist. That's not what this is about. Why don't you put a hold on your ego for one second and pay attention to what's happening in this country? White privilege is science, and you are a science denier.

Are Emily and Greg More Employable than Lakisha and Jamal?
http://www2.econ.iastate.edu/classes/ec ... _emily.pdf

(Overall, whites had 50% more callbacks than blacks, based only on their names)

I could easily go through and prove why you're wrong one again, but you lost credibility with me a long time ago. You're just a race-baiting as*hole who constantly makes personal attacks on everybody you respond to, and then you get upset when they don't listen to you afterwards. I'm fine calling you out for it, because I don't care if you listen to me. As if me being nice would make a difference to someone like you.


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31 Aug 2016, 2:13 pm

I lost credibility, but that didn't stop you from responding to my earlier post. What changed? Oh, that's right, I posted a scientific study that supported my premise.



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31 Aug 2016, 2:18 pm

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I lost credibility, but that didn't stop you from responding to my earlier post. What changed? Oh, that's right, I posted a scientific study that supported my premise.

"Scientific"


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31 Aug 2016, 2:22 pm

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To be honest, I agree with the black woman. Young black males are insanely more likely to commit crimes than young white males, and I assume she knows this from firsthand experience. Also, they say they were dressed the same, but the black guy had on baggy pants and a lopsided hat, whereas the white guy simply had a backwards baseball cap on, and a regular t-shirt and jeans. Those details do matter.


Well that is actually false that black males are more likely to commit crimes than white males...but even if it was a statistical truth it would still be racist to automatcially judge a black person as more criminal/violent than a white person based on race alone based on it.

No, statistically black people are way more likely to commit crime, specifically black males, specifically violent crimes. I agree that this doesn't mean you should just assume an individual is a criminal solely based on skin color, but under certain circumstances I could see why people might be wary. It's unfortunate, but it seems to me that criminals should be getting the blame for the stereotype. Black people judge black males as more likely to be criminal as well, probably because of firsthand experience in many cases. Am I to believe that is racism as well?

Also, judging someone by their race based on statistics is exactly what people are doing when they say I have white privilege. It's like I said, nobody is allowed to go around saying all black people have "black criminality" based on statistics, so why can someone say I have "white privilege" based on nothing other than statistics? Nobody on here knows me or knows what kind of life I have, yet they feel perfectly comfortable saying I surely have all the advantages. They don't bother asking me about my experience, and they don't even try to have an honest, open discussion. They are openly judging me based on my skin color. Do you not find it offensive when people do this to you?


I think there are certainly noticeable inequalities, but I don't think it is useful to scream 'white privilege' at every white person. I mean it is useful to look at inequalities and look to solutions for them but I do tend to agree with the second part of of your post. But that is the problem there are people on both sides that simply don't want to hear it from anyone who doesn't already share their exact same view.


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31 Aug 2016, 2:32 pm

Since the OP has been given a temporary ban for personal attacks, I'm closing this thread.


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