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23 Sep 2016, 4:59 pm

LOL....I thought you had pasta for your midnight snack.

Do you eat cornflakes with hot, or cold, milk?

Europeans, it seems, tend to eat their cereal with hot milk. Americans with cold milk.



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23 Sep 2016, 5:03 pm

I don't eat cornfalkes but when I was a kid I always had them with cold milk. The only breakfast cereals that I ever had with hot milk were things like porridge and wheetabix, but only in the winter. I do still eat breakfast cereals and nowadays I only ever use cold milk.


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23 Sep 2016, 6:16 pm

I like Fruity Pebbles but only when I'm being bad.



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25 Sep 2016, 8:52 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
LOL....I thought you had pasta for your midnight snack.

Do you eat cornflakes with hot, or cold, milk?

Europeans, it seems, tend to eat their cereal with hot milk. Americans with cold milk.


I like cornflakes with reeeally cold milk, otherwise they go soggy. The best thing is, now they don't make gold top milk anymore, is to pour a little single cream over the top, that's really nice.



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25 Sep 2016, 8:52 am

Dr.Pepper wrote:
I like Fruity Pebbles but only when I'm being bad.


Dr.Pepper, what are fruity pebbles??



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25 Sep 2016, 9:04 am

A type of fruity cereal, named after Fred Flintstone's daughter, Pebbles.



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25 Sep 2016, 9:11 am

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About the original question in this topic - I read all the differing answers and it seemed to me that everyone clearly had a valid point, from their own perspective on the different positions on the spectrum. It's something I've been considering, and re-considering, and researching, and wondering about while reading, so I've followed this with interest.

It seems to me that people with ASD are born with something, yes. Heredary, yes clearly. We have it in our family. Sensitivity? Non-conformity, inability to pretend to be something they're not? Extreme empathy? Something beyond, or at least different from what other people have, generally speaking. And THAT is positive, I believe. The autism that can then come out of that given certain conditions, is NOT positive. It can lead to great suffering, most of all for the affected person themselves.

What makes the difference? I think (and I know this is not really a fashionable perspective, in particular from the point of view of defensive parents) that environmental factors make the difference between a positive and negative life experience, or experiences through life. These could be anything from birth or hospital trauma, illness, to parenting and schooling, relationships, friendships, immediate surroundings, community. Some are unavoidable, whereas others are avoidable in some situations. I'm making a detailed list, slowly, and would be grateful for any and all suggestions.

I tried to illustrate my answer to the question 'can we drop the D' - with the answer 'that depends'.. see below:

Nah, didn't work like that - I'll get back on this tomorrow ..


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So, I was saying.. yes, environmental factors. I think there's not enough readiness to question, you know, basically the entire basis and setup of our society 8O , when considering what environmental factors affecting autism might be.



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25 Sep 2016, 9:16 am

I still don't believe that "environmental factors" after birth play much of a role in autism.

Perhaps, in utero, "environmental factors" might play more of a role.



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25 Sep 2016, 9:32 am

Does 'function' have a 'c' or not? Just had a short-circuit in my wiring..



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25 Sep 2016, 9:44 am

katy_rome wrote:
Dr.Pepper wrote:
I like Fruity Pebbles but only when I'm being bad.


Dr.Pepper, what are fruity pebbles??


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They are a rice cereal made mostly of sugar and mystical flavors.



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25 Sep 2016, 9:55 am

Dr.Pepper wrote:
katy_rome wrote:
Dr.Pepper wrote:
I like Fruity Pebbles but only when I'm being bad.


Dr.Pepper, what are fruity pebbles??


They are a rice cereal made mostly of sugar and mystical flavors.


Gosh, Okay.
I'd have to eat them with my eyes closed, though I'm making no judgments till I try them :P



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25 Sep 2016, 9:59 am

Function has a "c."

Fruity Pebbles are like fruity Rice Krispies.



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25 Sep 2016, 10:11 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I still don't believe that "environmental factors" after birth play much of a role in autism.

Perhaps, in utero, "environmental factors" might play more of a role.


I think after birth environmental factors such as parenting has a very large role in how severe the existing autism presents.


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25 Sep 2016, 10:14 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Function has a "c."

Fruity Pebbles are like fruity Rice Krispies.


Or Rice Krispies on LSD.



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25 Sep 2016, 10:18 am

Bad parenting inevitably causes pathology. Of course it would make any autism worse. It makes anything worse.

I meant more along the lines of vaccines, lead, mercury, etc. They might exacerbate autism, but don't actually cause it.

I still believe the vast majority of autism is inborn. Some have it from birth, I believe. Some have a predisposition which might be "ignited" by some environmental influence.



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25 Sep 2016, 10:18 am

Psychedelic Krispies!