Can we drop the D?
Perhaps, in utero, "environmental factors" might play more of a role.
I think after birth environmental factors such as parenting has a very large role in how severe the existing autism presents.
AH yes, well this is exactly what I meant really! I started putting together a list of the environmental factors that might affect where someone might fall on the spectrum. The vaccines stuff - oh god, that is such a can of worms. But while i reckon diet, good health, toxins, illness and so on, could have some role.. I think the MAIN factors to my mind, would be parenting, schooling, lack of close trusted friendships/secure relationships, community.. traumatic experiences often before conscious memory. Coupled with this deep sensitivity so pre-disposition to reacting with falling apart, and withdrawal.. anyway I'm interested in other people's thoughts on this..
I'm listed higher than these people on the WGD.
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However my practical, daily living, skills lag far behind. I get a fair amount of support.
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No, disorder is the most accurate part. Otherwise I wouldn't be so scatter-brained.
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Disorder or not, it is irrelevant.
A functioning person is still a functioning person with an explanation of why the label.
A dysfunctional person is still a dysfunctional person with an explanation regardless of label.
If both parties decide to divide merely because of this, it means they're just caught up in that stupid game.
A person who is coping, label or not, is still a person who is coping until they don't have to.
Whether or not naming the unnameable a name gives a person a peace of mind or greater dread...
It is truly up to the person in question whether or not one would optimize the purpose of the label.
It mattered a little if it's a condition or a disorder -- only sentiments that is usually drawn from whatever one is conditioned or longing with.
I say learn how to detach -- both the positive and the negative sentiments of.
Have a thought experiment in terms of labels and identities to better yourself both knowing good and bad -- than cling and impose others of it.
To be stuck by overindulgence, catastrophism or denial would either cause mental illness or is a sign of mental illness.
It is rooted by sentiments around one's identity nonetheless.
Circumstances beyond that -- is another.
But not everyone knows what they're doing -- how to tease it apart, how intricate it could be, and where it ends and begins.
It is still in human nature to long change, dreaming to prevent whatever anxieties, all the what-ifs, look at greener grasses or whatnot.
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Yes I do find difficulty fitting in sometimes. I find social occasions where you are expected to mingle oppressive. I am not being antisocial gravitating to the corners, I'm not surrounded in corners.
But finding difficulty fitting in and not fitting in are two different things. We find our own ways of coping. Here up on the High functioning side of the spectrum it does not need to be a disorder as such, so can we drop the D and just talk about the Autism Spectrum?
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Does it really matter?, i mean do they think intelligent people are fooled?
Someone is autistic & needs a carer, help and cannot live independently because they have err... a disorder.
Everyone knows its because they have a disorder, calling it a condition doesnt change anyone`s opinion.
Heres`s a website about the "condition" of heart failure. No doubt someone out there will start saying but heart failure is just a difference in cardiac rhythm and shouldnt be called a disorder so lets use the word condition.
By the way the reason why autistic people may get help in the first place is beacuse they have a disorder. Black & gay people are different but they dont receive welfare, housing, special schools because they are black or gay. Autistic people get them because their autism may make them disabled, having a disability is a disorder.
No doubt someone with hf aspergers will say it doesnt feel like "i" have a disorder, just like the man with specticles might say it doesnt feel like im blind. Thats why autism is a spectum disorder.
https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/ ... rt-failure
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Wreck It Ralph
Someone is autistic & needs a carer, help and cannot live independently because they have err... a disorder.
Everyone knows its because they have a disorder, calling it a condition doesnt change anyone`s opinion.
Heres`s a website about the "condition" of heart failure. No doubt someone out there will start saying but heart failure is just a difference in cardiac rhythm and shouldnt be called a disorder so lets use the word condition.
By the way the reason why autistic people may get help in the first place is beacuse they have a disorder. Black & gay people are different but they dont receive welfare, housing, special schools because they are black or gay. Autistic people get them because their autism may make them disabled, having a disability is a disorder.
No doubt someone with hf aspergers will say it doesnt feel like "i" have a disorder, just like the man with specticles might say it doesnt feel like im blind. Thats why autism is a spectum disorder.
https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/ ... rt-failure
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"I'm bad and that's good. I'll never be good and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me."
Wreck It Ralph
Someone is autistic & needs a carer, help and cannot live independently because they have err... a disorder.
Everyone knows its because they have a disorder, calling it a condition doesnt change anyone`s opinion.
Heres`s a website about the "condition" of heart failure. No doubt someone out there will start saying but heart failure is just a difference in cardiac rhythm and shouldnt be called a disorder so lets use the word condition.
By the way the reason why autistic people may get help in the first place is beacuse they have a disorder. Black & gay people are different but they dont receive welfare, housing, special schools because they are black or gay. Autistic people get them because their autism may make them disabled, having a disability is a disorder.
No doubt someone with hf aspergers will say it doesnt feel like "i" have a disorder, just like the man with specticles might say it doesnt feel like im blind. Thats why autism is a spectum disorder.
https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/ ... rt-failure
Semantics in action here Black people only receive services where they may be a victim of racial discrimination or poverty, which is not the same. Barack Obama is black im sure he doesnt receive any special services for the colour of his skin.
Some autistic people are disabled, they may receive disability welfare because they cannot work and look after themselves, like the autistic adult with the living skills of a 3 year old.
They cannot work or support themselves because they have a disability
A disability is a medical problem with the normal functioning of the human body like walking for example, if using autism i.e humans have evolved to have a voicebox to be able to communicate, many autistic people are unable to talk, in other words use their voice box as nature intended, so its a fault or medical disorder just like having a severed spine.
Autistic people are unable to do many other things NT`s are able to do that`s essential for independent living due to a genetic / biological fault, in other words a disorder.
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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends upon the unreasonable man."
- George Bernie Shaw
Someone is autistic & needs a carer, help and cannot live independently because they have err... a disorder.
Everyone knows its because they have a disorder, calling it a condition doesnt change anyone`s opinion.
Heres`s a website about the "condition" of heart failure. No doubt someone out there will start saying but heart failure is just a difference in cardiac rhythm and shouldnt be called a disorder so lets use the word condition.
By the way the reason why autistic people may get help in the first place is beacuse they have a disorder. Black & gay people are different but they dont receive welfare, housing, special schools because they are black or gay. Autistic people get them because their autism may make them disabled, having a disability is a disorder.
No doubt someone with hf aspergers will say it doesnt feel like "i" have a disorder, just like the man with specticles might say it doesnt feel like im blind. Thats why autism is a spectum disorder.
https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/ ... rt-failure
Semantics in action here Black people only receive services where they may be a victim of racial discrimination or poverty, which is not the same. Barack Obama is black im sure he doesnt receive any special services for the colour of his skin.
Some autistic people are disabled, they may receive disability welfare because they cannot work and look after themselves, like the autistic person with the living skills of a 3 year old.
They cannot work or support themselves because they have a disability
A disability is a problem with the normal functioning of the human body, i.e humans have evolved to have a voicebox to be able to communicate, many autistic people are unable to talk, or unable to do other things NT`s are able to do thats essential for independent living due to a genetic / biological fault, in other words a disorder.
I am not severely disabled because I am Autistic. I am severely disabled because society is set up in such a way that makes me unable to function with the differences in my physiology.
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"I'm bad and that's good. I'll never be good and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me."
Wreck It Ralph
Someone is autistic & needs a carer, help and cannot live independently because they have err... a disorder.
Everyone knows its because they have a disorder, calling it a condition doesnt change anyone`s opinion.
Heres`s a website about the "condition" of heart failure. No doubt someone out there will start saying but heart failure is just a difference in cardiac rhythm and shouldnt be called a disorder so lets use the word condition.
By the way the reason why autistic people may get help in the first place is beacuse they have a disorder. Black & gay people are different but they dont receive welfare, housing, special schools because they are black or gay. Autistic people get them because their autism may make them disabled, having a disability is a disorder.
No doubt someone with hf aspergers will say it doesnt feel like "i" have a disorder, just like the man with specticles might say it doesnt feel like im blind. Thats why autism is a spectum disorder.
https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/ ... rt-failure
Semantics in action here Black people only receive services where they may be a victim of racial discrimination or poverty, which is not the same. Barack Obama is black im sure he doesnt receive any special services for the colour of his skin.
Some autistic people are disabled, they may receive disability welfare because they cannot work and look after themselves, like the autistic person with the living skills of a 3 year old.
They cannot work or support themselves because they have a disability
A disability is a problem with the normal functioning of the human body, i.e humans have evolved to have a voicebox to be able to communicate, many autistic people are unable to talk, or unable to do other things NT`s are able to do thats essential for independent living due to a genetic / biological fault, in other words a disorder.
I am not severely disabled because I am Autistic. I am severely disabled because society is set up in such a way that makes me unable to function with the differences in my physiology.
Doesn’t sound like simple accommodations to me like working from home or a job that doesn’t req speaking to people. Your life depends on it so it’s pretty serious and medical.
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