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09 Nov 2016, 3:27 am

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Those of you living outside the USA, just remember that the POTUS is considered the leader of the Free World, not just the US. Not at all a comforting thought I'm sure.

Oh, you mean we're going to have to make do without Hillary starting World War III?
Well, that is a bit of a blow, but I guess we'll just have to endure.
I mean, now at least we have a chance to do so.



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09 Nov 2016, 3:28 am

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The nightmare has become a reality. American's obviously preferred a narcissistic ,racist, serial abuser of women over a competent and intelligent woman. Doesn't say much for the character of the average American.

Some saying change was needed but Trump?! ! !, and that Sanders wouldn't have lost the blue States.
Who do the Democrats choose for 2020?

the democrats are FINISHED as a party, in the historical dustbin along with the whigs.


I'd advise the Democratic party to stick it out, because I have to think Trump won't stand a snowball's chance in hell four years from now, after he drives the country into the ground.

the Bernie supporters will bolt straightaway to form/join another party and the colored folk will not be sufficient to maintain it, so it will splinter and dissolve.



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09 Nov 2016, 3:42 am

It just needs new life injected into it. Perhaps Hillary was just too old and part of the establishment - although a woman, not "exciting" or "new" enough to inspire more people into voting for her outside of the traditional base.

It might have been so different had Elizabeth Warren chose to run.


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09 Nov 2016, 3:45 am

Amaltheia wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Those of you living outside the USA, just remember that the POTUS is considered the leader of the Free World, not just the US. Not at all a comforting thought I'm sure.

Oh, you mean we're going to have to make do without Hillary starting World War III?
Well, that is a bit of a blow, but I guess we'll just have to endure.
I mean, now at least we have a chance to do so.


It's funny to me how Trump and Clinton have both been equally and consistently accused of someone who will start WWIII. Personally I don't think Trump, Clinton, Putin or any nation leader sees any advantage in the entire planet being annihilated in a nuclear war.



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09 Nov 2016, 3:45 am

^^^^I hope you're right but I have my doubts.



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09 Nov 2016, 3:54 am

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Sanders should have been the one chosen. There was just way too much controversy involved with Clinton.


Yeah, probably.


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09 Nov 2016, 3:55 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
The nightmare has become a reality. American's obviously preferred a narcissistic ,racist, serial abuser of women over a competent and intelligent woman. Doesn't say much for the character of the average American.

Some saying change was needed but Trump?! ! !, and that Sanders wouldn't have lost the blue States.
Who do the Democrats choose for 2020?

the democrats are FINISHED as a party, in the historical dustbin along with the whigs.


I'd advise the Democratic party to stick it out, because I have to think Trump won't stand a snowball's chance in hell four years from now, after he drives the country into the ground.


If he does totally f**k up impeachment is an option.


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09 Nov 2016, 3:58 am

EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
Those of you living outside the USA, just remember that the POTUS is considered the leader of the Free World, not just the US. Not at all a comforting thought I'm sure.

Oh, you mean we're going to have to make do without Hillary starting World War III?
Well, that is a bit of a blow, but I guess we'll just have to endure.
I mean, now at least we have a chance to do so.


It's funny to me how Trump and Clinton have both been equally and consistently accused of someone who will start WWIII. Personally I don't think Trump, Clinton, Putin or any nation leader sees any advantage in the entire planet being annihilated in a nuclear war.

I don't see how any national leader could see any advantage in blowing up Iraq, Libya, and Syria, but one of the two parties you mention has supported or actively worked to bring about all three of those.

Sometimes, you have to look at the track record and acknowledge that there are all sorts of things that don't make any sense to you, but which other people are quite willing to do.



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09 Nov 2016, 3:58 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
The nightmare has become a reality. American's obviously preferred a narcissistic ,racist, serial abuser of women over a competent and intelligent woman. Doesn't say much for the character of the average American.

Some saying change was needed but Trump?! ! !, and that Sanders wouldn't have lost the blue States.
Who do the Democrats choose for 2020?

the democrats are FINISHED as a party, in the historical dustbin along with the whigs.


I'd advise the Democratic party to stick it out, because I have to think Trump won't stand a snowball's chance in hell four years from now, after he drives the country into the ground.


If he does totally f**k up impeachment is an option.

and a possibility.



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09 Nov 2016, 4:08 am

Amaltheia wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Amaltheia wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Those of you living outside the USA, just remember that the POTUS is considered the leader of the Free World, not just the US. Not at all a comforting thought I'm sure.

Oh, you mean we're going to have to make do without Hillary starting World War III?
Well, that is a bit of a blow, but I guess we'll just have to endure.
I mean, now at least we have a chance to do so.


It's funny to me how Trump and Clinton have both been equally and consistently accused of someone who will start WWIII. Personally I don't think Trump, Clinton, Putin or any nation leader sees any advantage in the entire planet being annihilated in a nuclear war.

I don't see how any national leader could see any advantage in blowing up Iraq, Libya, and Syria, but one of the two parties you mention has supported or actively worked to bring about all three of those.

Sometimes, you have to look at the track record and acknowledge that there are all sorts of things that don't make any sense to you, but which other people are quite willing to do.


What I mean is I don't see any leader starting a war that would insure the destruction of their own country which would include their own personal destruction along with their children and family. It's possible of course, but seems highly unlikely. I don't think WWIII will ever happen. And if it does, it will be over with in a matter of minutes and most of the planet will be obliterated.



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09 Nov 2016, 4:19 am

auntblabby wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
The nightmare has become a reality. American's obviously preferred a narcissistic ,racist, serial abuser of women over a competent and intelligent woman. Doesn't say much for the character of the average American.

Some saying change was needed but Trump?! ! !, and that Sanders wouldn't have lost the blue States.
Who do the Democrats choose for 2020?

the democrats are FINISHED as a party, in the historical dustbin along with the whigs.


I'd advise the Democratic party to stick it out, because I have to think Trump won't stand a snowball's chance in hell four years from now, after he drives the country into the ground.


If he does totally f**k up impeachment is an option.

and a possibility.


With an all Republican Congress, I doubt it. All of the concientous objector never Trump Republicans are planning thier groveling strategy as we speak. Those that survived that is. A few of them are thinking about polishing there resumes as they lost. All that do not follow Trump know that a well financed Trumpist primary opponent awaits them.


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09 Nov 2016, 4:21 am

EzraS wrote:
Amaltheia wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Amaltheia wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Those of you living outside the USA, just remember that the POTUS is considered the leader of the Free World, not just the US. Not at all a comforting thought I'm sure.

Oh, you mean we're going to have to make do without Hillary starting World War III?
Well, that is a bit of a blow, but I guess we'll just have to endure.
I mean, now at least we have a chance to do so.


It's funny to me how Trump and Clinton have both been equally and consistently accused of someone who will start WWIII. Personally I don't think Trump, Clinton, Putin or any nation leader sees any advantage in the entire planet being annihilated in a nuclear war.

I don't see how any national leader could see any advantage in blowing up Iraq, Libya, and Syria, but one of the two parties you mention has supported or actively worked to bring about all three of those.

Sometimes, you have to look at the track record and acknowledge that there are all sorts of things that don't make any sense to you, but which other people are quite willing to do.


What I mean is I don't see any leader starting a war that would insure the destruction of their own country which would include their own personal destruction along with their children and family. It's possible of course, but seems highly unlikely. I don't think WWIII will ever happen. And if it does, it will be over with in a matter of minutes and most of the planet will be obliterated.


The highly unlikely is becoming reality on a regular basis lately.


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09 Nov 2016, 4:29 am

I think people have this all wrong.

I hate Trump, I think he is despicable. I thought his speech tonight was phony as hell and makes me really hate him. I doubt he will even prosecute anyone in the White House (drain the swamp). It's all just a game to him.

But I really think he won because Clinton seems to be a criminal herself. They are both criminals and that's why Trump won today. A combination of Republican loyalty to the party and disgust with Clinton. This may not be a popular opinion but I really think that nobody trusts Clinton (including myself and so losing this election is on her not the voters).



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09 Nov 2016, 5:02 am

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The highly unlikely is becoming reality on a regular basis lately.


Like what? The Cubs winning the world series? A goofy hotel owner becoming president? omg.



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09 Nov 2016, 5:11 am

Nigel Farage in the UK and Donald Trump in the USA

The prophets of doom like Michael Moore and Julian Assange are the only ones who guess the results of this election