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10 Nov 2016, 8:41 pm

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nat ... ne-n682176

One of dozens of articles. I have to say I am shocked and disappointed that this is how liberal democrats are behaving. It was supposed to be the Trump "deplorables" who were supposed to be rioting and acting this way if Trump lost, not enlightened critical thinking liberals. I think they're all making liberal democrats look bad.



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10 Nov 2016, 8:48 pm

I honestly don't think every protestor is a democrat. Many people that voted independent hated Trump too.



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10 Nov 2016, 8:54 pm

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I honestly don't think every protestor is a democrat. Many people that voted independent hated Trump too.


You're right I should said demarcates, liberals and the like. It just seems like the protesters are displaying the kind of stereotype that was given to Trump supporters. Setting things and fire, throwing fire bombs at police etc. I just thought that was supposed to be a more intelligent and peaceful demographic.



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10 Nov 2016, 8:57 pm

EzraS wrote:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nationwide-protests-continue-obama-trump-strike-conciliatory-tone-n682176

One of dozens of articles. I have to say I am shocked and disappointed that this is how liberal democrats are behaving. It was supposed to be the Trump "deplorables" who were supposed to be rioting and acting this way if Trump lost, not enlightened critical thinking liberals. I think they're all making liberal democrats look bad.


It's because that is how they act every time things don't go their way. Republicans NEVER acted that way when Obama got in both times, otherwise they would get a backlash that they were racists. Riots, racist talk, beating people up, setting towns on fire, shooting police - just a bunch of bullies because that's the only way they think they can get control of people and get what they want. I'd be embarrassed to be one of them. All of them need to be rounded up and put in jail - along with Clinton. They can all share one big cell together.


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10 Nov 2016, 9:07 pm

These anti-Trump "protests" are organized, violent, Leftist rioting intended to disrupt American society. It's more domestic terrorism like that organized by Democratic National Committee operative Robert Creamer during the campaign, except on a larger scale:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10/tr ... neity.html

From coast to coast, demonstrators are burning flags and effigies of the president-elect while declaring that they refuse to accept Trump’s victory. But observers online are claiming that, in some cases, protesters were bused to the scenes - a telltale sign of coordination.

“Anti-Trump protestors in Austin today are not as organic as they seem,” one local in the Texas capitol tweeted Wednesday, along with photos offered as evidence.

Others claimed to have found ads posted on CraigsList in which a Seattle-based non-profit was soliciting “Full-Time Activists.”

“We are looking for motivated individuals who are seeking Full-Time, Part-Time, and Permanent positions,” reads a line from the ad from Washington CAN! posted on Wednesday.

Rumors have also been circulating that the new batch of anti-Trump protesters has been bankrolled by individuals like billionaire liberal activist George Soros and groups like Moveon.org.

“WTF, @georgesoros busing in & paying #protestors to destroy cities is domestic #terrorism. #fakeProtests #BlueLivesMatter have tough days,” read one tweet in response to the viral picture of buses in Austin.

Another theory floated on social media is that many of the signs that were distributed at rallies across the country appeared to be exactly the same, indicating they were printed and distributed by an organized group.


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10 Nov 2016, 9:19 pm

How do we know some of these rioters aren't being paid off by Trump to make Democrats look like the "deplorable" ones? It would make more sense to me.



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10 Nov 2016, 9:20 pm

Darmok wrote:
These anti-Trump "protests" are organized, violent, Leftist rioting intended to disrupt American society. It's more domestic terrorism like that organized by Democratic National Committee operative Robert Creamer during the campaign, except on a larger scale:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10/tr ... neity.html

From coast to coast, demonstrators are burning flags and effigies of the president-elect while declaring that they refuse to accept Trump’s victory. But observers online are claiming that, in some cases, protesters were bused to the scenes - a telltale sign of coordination.

“Anti-Trump protestors in Austin today are not as organic as they seem,” one local in the Texas capitol tweeted Wednesday, along with photos offered as evidence.

Others claimed to have found ads posted on CraigsList in which a Seattle-based non-profit was soliciting “Full-Time Activists.”

“We are looking for motivated individuals who are seeking Full-Time, Part-Time, and Permanent positions,” reads a line from the ad from Washington CAN! posted on Wednesday.

Rumors have also been circulating that the new batch of anti-Trump protesters has been bankrolled by individuals like billionaire liberal activist George Soros and groups like Moveon.org.

“WTF, @georgesoros busing in & paying #protestors to destroy cities is domestic #terrorism. #fakeProtests #BlueLivesMatter have tough days,” read one tweet in response to the viral picture of buses in Austin.

Another theory floated on social media is that many of the signs that were distributed at rallies across the country appeared to be exactly the same, indicating they were printed and distributed by an organized group.


I heard on the radio that these protests were coordinated by Soros. He's done it before. The Old Fart!


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10 Nov 2016, 9:23 pm

This is what I'm talking about!

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/ ... s-to-spur/


Soros is buddy-buddy with Obama and Clinton both! He funded a lot of Clinton's campaign. Obama is the source of all of this racist riot crap!


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10 Nov 2016, 9:30 pm

nurseangela wrote:
EzraS wrote:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nationwide-protests-continue-obama-trump-strike-conciliatory-tone-n682176

One of dozens of articles. I have to say I am shocked and disappointed that this is how liberal democrats are behaving. It was supposed to be the Trump "deplorables" who were supposed to be rioting and acting this way if Trump lost, not enlightened critical thinking liberals. I think they're all making liberal democrats look bad.


It's because that is how they act every time things don't go their way. Republicans NEVER acted that way when Obama got in both times, otherwise they would get a backlash that they were racists. Riots, racist talk, beating people up, setting towns on fire, shooting police - just a bunch of bullies because that's the only way they think they can get control of people and get what they want. I'd be embarrassed to be one of them. All of them need to be rounded up and put in jail - along with Clinton. They can all share one big cell together.


I'm really surprised. I guess I have a lot more to learn about people. What are they trying to accomplish? Are they expecting Trump to say "ok geeze I'll turn over the presidency to Clinton, just settle down"?



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10 Nov 2016, 9:30 pm

The signs, yeah, a lot of them were printed up by the same group. From the typeface, my guess is the International Socialist Organization and/or a splinter group like ANSWER. ISO signs are ubiquitous at most leftist "demonstrations". ISO seems to be the biggest and most influential subgroup of the far left milieu. There's plenty of cup shuffling among the Far Left, lots of subgroups and splinter groups, everything from Maoism to Trotskyism to just plain freakin cuckoo-ism. There's groups of protesters who are bused from city to city. I personally like the Argentina-originated term for that country's paid protester faction, "piqueteros". Feel free to use it.

All the layers and splinters among the far left make it impossible to determine who's really in charge, people like Soros pay the bills but I'm not sure how involved he is in anything below top-level strategy. From what I've been able to determine, there's a power structure between Soros and the bottom level organizations that is organized something like the Italian Mafia, with a group of families who pass their power on via bloodlines and who are responsible for the actual planning of stuff like the Anti-Trump riots. The Communist Party USA, which is a favorite whipping boy, is generally not active anymore.



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10 Nov 2016, 9:45 pm

EzraS wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
EzraS wrote:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nationwide-protests-continue-obama-trump-strike-conciliatory-tone-n682176

One of dozens of articles. I have to say I am shocked and disappointed that this is how liberal democrats are behaving. It was supposed to be the Trump "deplorables" who were supposed to be rioting and acting this way if Trump lost, not enlightened critical thinking liberals. I think they're all making liberal democrats look bad.


It's because that is how they act every time things don't go their way. Republicans NEVER acted that way when Obama got in both times, otherwise they would get a backlash that they were racists. Riots, racist talk, beating people up, setting towns on fire, shooting police - just a bunch of bullies because that's the only way they think they can get control of people and get what they want. I'd be embarrassed to be one of them. All of them need to be rounded up and put in jail - along with Clinton. They can all share one big cell together.


I'm really surprised. I guess I have a lot more to learn about people. What are they trying to accomplish? Are they expecting Trump to say "ok geeze I'll turn over the presidency to Clinton, just settle down"?


Look on Twitter under" Occupy Oakland". Soros started that group and "Occupy Wallstreet" which went all around the world known as the "Occupy Movement". That's what is behind all of these protests. These people actually get paid to riot and burn up cities and cause as much chaos as they can.


" Occupy Wall Street (OWS) is the name given to a protest movement that began on September 17, 2011, in Zuccotti Park, located in New York City's Wall Street financial district, receiving global attention and spawning the Occupy movement against social and economic inequality worldwide."


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10 Nov 2016, 9:51 pm

I was reading about KKK pamphlets being dropped and racist graffiti being sprayed at campuses and elsewhere, and my first thought was it's probably them who are doing that.



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10 Nov 2016, 10:06 pm

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How do we know some of these rioters aren't being paid off by Trump to make Democrats look like the "deplorable" ones? It would make more sense to me.


Indeed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump paid off protestors to cause trouble.

But many Trump supporters act like he does no wrong and democrats are doing all the bad stuff, yeah right. :roll:



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10 Nov 2016, 10:15 pm

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I'm really surprised. I guess I have a lot more to learn about people. What are they trying to accomplish? Are they expecting Trump to say "ok geeze I'll turn over the presidency to Clinton, just settle down"?

These organized "protest" groups, like ANSWER and others, are Communist revolutionary groups. Their aim, like the aim of Marxist revolutionaries for the last 100 years, is to undermine liberal (i.e. Western democratic) society and foment revolution. They try to intentionally incite class hatred (the old basis for Communist revolution), and in more modern times have tried to incite race hatred and gender hatred. It's international, psychological guerrilla warfare, plain and simple.

Here's an essay about ideological (memetic) warfare of this kind, but famous computer guru Eric Raymond:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=260

(And by the way, the busloads of folks getting paid $10/hr to hold signs and scream are not the ideologues, per se; it's the national and international organizers who are, and they work in the background (like DNC operative Robert Creamer). The Communist USSR cultivated impressionable young Americans for decades to use as ideological pawns. Such pawns are still around -- the Soviets famously called them "useful idiots.")


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10 Nov 2016, 11:01 pm

Oops I didn't see there was already a thread about this subject.