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22 Nov 2016, 6:39 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

Trump's foundation up to trouble ONCE AGAIN! Trump supporters claim Clinton Foundation is bad, but Trump's is just as bad.. if not worse. Conman Trump needs to be investigated fully now, rather than later (before its too late and he does even worse stuff). The fact he still hasnt released his personal taxes is even more proof he is hiding stuff.

How much debt will Trump add to America just to help out his businesses? I hope we don't find that out and he gets stopped now, not later.



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22 Nov 2016, 6:46 pm

New York Times: Donald Trump Seems to Retreat on Some Promises

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But pressed to respond to criticism in other areas, he was defiant. He declared that “the law’s totally on my side” when it comes to questions about conflict of interest and ethics laws. “The president can’t have a conflict of interest.”


When he falls, it's going to be hard.



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22 Nov 2016, 9:16 pm

androbot01 wrote:
New York Times: Donald Trump Seems to Retreat on Some Promises

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But pressed to respond to criticism in other areas, he was defiant. He declared that “the law’s totally on my side” when it comes to questions about conflict of interest and ethics laws. “The president can’t have a conflict of interest.”


When he falls, it's going to be hard.



It's true, those laws that apply to other federal employees and officials do not apply to the president or vice president. Blame the founders for that one.



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23 Nov 2016, 1:17 pm

This line in the Washington Post:

"Sean Wilentz, a presidential historian at Princeton University, said Trump’s “reality show ruckus” has been striking and without precedent. “No previous president-elect, let alone president, has acted with the high-pitched drama that Trump has displayed,” he said. “Five crises a day — keep ’em coming.”"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

How much drama is actually being created by the media I wonder? How much cash does it generate for them?



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23 Nov 2016, 1:33 pm

EzraS wrote:
How much drama is actually being created by the media I wonder? How much cash does it generate for them?


"Chaos is a ladder"

-Media executive, probably
-Trump, probably



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23 Nov 2016, 3:15 pm

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If Trump does become impeached, do you really want Mike Pence to become the next president?


Exactly...that would be even worse.


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23 Nov 2016, 5:40 pm

No can do YET
He's not in office.


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23 Nov 2016, 10:41 pm

Any sitting President is vulnerable to impeachment if conditions warrant the charge. Impeachment is a kind of indictment, but it is made by the House of Representatives against a sitting President. Once impeached the President is tried on the impeachment charges by the Senate with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the trial. If the President is found guilty of the charges and specifications in the impeachment he is removed from office and the next eligible person in the succession chain becomes the acting President.

Impeachment can also be used for any appointed official in the federal government, such as a sitting judge, a sitting fice president or an ambasidor.

This mechanism makes it virtually impossible for a President to become a dictator, in the way the Chanellor Hitler of Germany become the unremovable head of state. If a President if impeached (but not yet convicted) most likely military officers may refuse to carry out the President's orders. That way an impeached President cannot use the military as a means of assuming dictatorial powers.


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24 Nov 2016, 1:40 am

Although couched in legal jargon impeachment is a political process. Iran Contra was about aiding an adversary and arguably worse then Watergate but Reagan was liked and Nixon was loathed.


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24 Nov 2016, 5:18 pm

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What about this Emoluments Clause?
The Washington Post: The Emoluments Clause — is Donald Trump violating its letter or spirit?

If he benefits personally in any way from his business by giving governmental favours to business partners he will be in violation of it.


This. And related issues.

Trump is already on a collision course with impeachment if he doesn't change course fast because of his inability to insulate himself from his many business enterprises. And the fact that the GOP runs congress is the very problem: he is at odds with his own party who would LOVE to replace him with Pence. Trump has to avoid even the appearance of impropriety if he is to survive. He cant even appear to be making decisions based only on whats good for his business empire. Being a job creating tycoon was part of his appeal, but its also a complicated problem now that he is elected. Its a conundrum for Trump supporters, but that's how it is.



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27 Nov 2016, 11:35 am

drlaugh wrote:
No can do YET
He's not in office.


Once in office he is very vulnerable to impeachment. The Democrats want to get rid of him and the Republicans do not want an amateur and an outsider in office so in case of impeachment (unlikely but possible) Trump is ver vulnerable to removal. Once Trump takes the Oath he can no longer play Let's Make a Deal.


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27 Nov 2016, 7:58 pm

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Establishment Republicans are feckless cowards and the prime example of the definition of sell out. They will not impeach and convict Trump even if he shoots a bunch of people on 5th Avenue.


LOL! but those in the republican establishment are the most likely to stab Trump in the back behind the scenes...they will wait it out and see what happens...



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30 Nov 2016, 4:07 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
What about this Emoluments Clause?
The Washington Post: The Emoluments Clause — is Donald Trump violating its letter or spirit?

If he benefits personally in any way from his business by giving governmental favours to business partners he will be in violation of it.


This. And related issues.

Trump is already on a collision course with impeachment if he doesn't change course fast because of his inability to insulate himself from his many business enterprises. And the fact that the GOP runs congress is the very problem: he is at odds with his own party who would LOVE to replace him with Pence. Trump has to avoid even the appearance of impropriety if he is to survive. He cant even appear to be making decisions based only on whats good for his business empire. Being a job creating tycoon was part of his appeal, but its also a complicated problem now that he is elected. Its a conundrum for Trump supporters, but that's how it is.


Trump will put his assets in a blind trust. This is what every president for at least the last five decades has done.


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01 Dec 2016, 5:28 am

BaalChatzaf wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
What about this Emoluments Clause?
The Washington Post: The Emoluments Clause — is Donald Trump violating its letter or spirit?

If he benefits personally in any way from his business by giving governmental favours to business partners he will be in violation of it.


This. And related issues.

Trump is already on a collision course with impeachment if he doesn't change course fast because of his inability to insulate himself from his many business enterprises. And the fact that the GOP runs congress is the very problem: he is at odds with his own party who would LOVE to replace him with Pence. Trump has to avoid even the appearance of impropriety if he is to survive. He cant even appear to be making decisions based only on whats good for his business empire. Being a job creating tycoon was part of his appeal, but its also a complicated problem now that he is elected. Its a conundrum for Trump supporters, but that's how it is.


Trump will put his assets in a blind trust. This is what every president for at least the last five decades has done.


Thats the point. He refuses to commit to doing that. And even if he did do that there are other related issues.