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26 Nov 2016, 9:40 am

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Not sure if I'm giving him too much credit here, but that could be a negotiating ploy, establishing himself as crazy enough to do it, so other countries are more likely to give him what he wants.
Apparently Nixon achieved his face-saving "peace with honor" agreement with Vietnam largely because the Vietnamese genuinely thought him crazy enough to use nukes, or at least that's a theory I saw on CNN.

BTW my pointing this out is not intended to imply anything regarding Trump, I just thought I'd throw it out there.


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26 Nov 2016, 10:53 am

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It will destroy the planet and it's not worth it,.....


Agreed, but nuclear weapons have already been invented and cannot be un-invented. Once one side has them the other side (or sides) have to as a deterrent. The temptation to hit someone with a big stick is usually dampened when that other person has a big stick, too.

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.....but do all the world leaders think that way?

Depends on which world leader we're talking about.


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03 Dec 2016, 3:21 am

speak for yourself thanks. i'd be more than happy with a nuclear war. it'd spice things up a lot and hopefully get rid of life on earth



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03 Dec 2016, 5:01 am

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speak for yourself thanks. i'd be more than happy with a nuclear war. it'd spice things up a lot and hopefully get rid of life on earth


You do know that life on earth includes you, don't you?


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03 Dec 2016, 5:02 am

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schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:
speak for yourself thanks. i'd be more than happy with a nuclear war. it'd spice things up a lot and hopefully get rid of life on earth


You do know that life on earth includes you, don't you?


yes of course, that's the best part, silly.



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03 Dec 2016, 5:03 am

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:
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speak for yourself thanks. i'd be more than happy with a nuclear war. it'd spice things up a lot and hopefully get rid of life on earth


You do know that life on earth includes you, don't you?


yes of course, that's the best part, silly.


Some of us don't want ourselves or our loved ones to die.


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03 Dec 2016, 5:36 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:
speak for yourself thanks. i'd be more than happy with a nuclear war. it'd spice things up a lot and hopefully get rid of life on earth


You do know that life on earth includes you, don't you?


yes of course, that's the best part, silly.


Some of us don't want ourselves or our loved ones to die.


i understand and respect that, which is why i was talking from my own perspective.



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03 Dec 2016, 8:47 pm

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:
speak for yourself thanks. i'd be more than happy with a nuclear war. it'd spice things up a lot and hopefully get rid of life on earth


You do know that life on earth includes you, don't you?


yes of course, that's the best part, silly.


Some of us don't want ourselves or our loved ones to die.


i understand and respect that, which is why i was talking from my own perspective.


For the record, I doubt anyone here wants you to die, either.


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03 Dec 2016, 9:44 pm

It literally makes no sense to have one. If one were to occur, there's no guarantee anyone would survive. If there were survivors, in say a vault(including the President), the survivors would neither forgive or trust the President again. With ample supplies you could survive for some time, but we're talking "the rest of all existence". Your resources would have to be renewable and you'd need somewhere to store and somewhere to renew said resources(terrarium/aquarium, chemistry lab, etc.). With all that considered, your vault would be HUGE!! ! And more than most can afford. Say you needed to leave for some reason. A problem you'd encounter is nuclear fallout, which would've contaminated everything on the outside: plants, animal, everything. A video from YouTube that might hopefully answer some unanswered questions.

https://youtu.be/YvGlBFjxvgY



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03 Dec 2016, 9:59 pm

I had forgotten about Mutually Assured Destruction(M.A.D), which I imagine all other countries have adopted. It would be everybody shoots everybody and no one wins, in the end.