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skafather84
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14 May 2007, 2:54 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDUBfRSf63w[/youtube]




[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpHNal57ix0[/youtube]




[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRqtnxV6Jx8[/youtube]




[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ImQruoZ7VU[/youtube]



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16 May 2007, 2:36 am

It might just be me, but would it be possible for me to summarise the three arguments in those videos as appeals to "truthiness"?



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16 May 2007, 8:43 am

I just heard part of the first argument it sucked. The man's first argument is weak self-organized processes exist in the universe and thus are not signs of a creator.

The conscience is not a sign of God either, there are valid reasons for evolutionarily developed creatures to have some form of conscience.

The third person's tale is not proof of anything either, psychological changes can occur.

In short, the arguments suck.



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16 May 2007, 8:58 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
I just heard part of the first argument and will not continue. The man's first argument is weak, and I fear to listen to the others for sanity's sake.


I did the same, and then watched like 20 seconds of the final video.

All those dinosaur bones were planted in the ground by those antichrist scientists anyways :roll:

People like this just piss me off, and I think they're just stupid, but I usually don't say so because I don't spend time listening to what they have to say.

(also, thanks to taruby for the wiki link to 'truthiness' because unfortunately I missed that first hilarious episode of the colbert report. I had to think about "wordinistas" for a second before I realized how to pronounce it, then i started laughing :lol: :lol: just sounds like some nazi-like regime...)

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What is important? What you want to be true, or what is true?...

Truthiness is 'What I say is right, and [nothing] anyone else says could possibly be true.' It's not only that I feel it to be true, but that I feel it to be true. There's not only an emotional quality, but there's a selfish quality.


And 2005 "word of the year" even. Where have I been? Not in touch with words, obviously.



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16 May 2007, 9:01 am

Racer_J wrote:
I did the same, and then watched like 20 seconds of the final video.

All those dinosaur bones were planted in the ground by those antichrist scientists anyways :roll:

People like this just piss me off, and I think they're just stupid, but I usually don't say so because I don't spend time listening to what they have to say.
Right, creationism really isn't the solution according to Occam's razor.



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16 May 2007, 2:31 pm

Racer_J wrote:
I had to think about "wordinistas" for a second before I realized how to pronounce it, then i started laughing :lol: :lol: just sounds like some nazi-like regime...




not big on the sandinistas?