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adifferentname
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11 Jan 2017, 7:37 am

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It was a shame it took until 1918 for women to be able to vote in parliament and finnally have equal rights to men.


That's not accurate. Women who paid tax gained the right to vote in 1869. The Representation of the People Act of 1918 saw the government, largely influenced by the sacrifices of World War I, extend voting rights to all men aged 21 and over and to women over 30 (subject to similar property limitations that previously applied to men) which effectively tripled the electorate (6 million additional men and 8 million women). The Equal Franchise Act, giving all women over 21 the same voting rights as men, occurred 10 years later in 1928 and increased the electorate by around 5 million.

I'm not sure why you consider it a "shame". The gradual rolling out of rights to men and women in the pursuit of equality mark, in my opinion, one of the finest achievements of Western civilisation. Societies are works in progress. We can no more judge Victorians (or any other of our forebears) by today's standards than they could those who came before them. After all, they're largely responsible for the freedoms and privileges we enjoy today.

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While the victorian era may have been progressive women were still placed in certain 'traditional roles' that made it so that academic work was frowned upon as well as interferring with politics to a degree


All of which has already been pointed out in this thread.



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11 Jan 2017, 11:53 am

adifferentname wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
It was a shame it took until 1918 for women to be able to vote in parliament and finnally have equal rights to men.


That's not accurate. Women who paid tax gained the right to vote in 1869. The Representation of the People Act of 1918 saw the government, largely influenced by the sacrifices of World War I, extend voting rights to all men aged 21 and over and to women over 30 (subject to similar property limitations that previously applied to men) which effectively tripled the electorate (6 million additional men and 8 million women). The Equal Franchise Act, giving all women over 21 the same voting rights as men, occurred 10 years later in 1928 and increased the electorate by around 5 million.

I'm not sure why you consider it a "shame". The gradual rolling out of rights to men and women in the pursuit of equality mark, in my opinion, one of the finest achievements of Western civilisation. Societies are works in progress. We can no more judge Victorians (or any other of our forebears) by today's standards than they could those who came before them. After all, they're largely responsible for the freedoms and privileges we enjoy today.

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While the victorian era may have been progressive women were still placed in certain 'traditional roles' that made it so that academic work was frowned upon as well as interferring with politics to a degree


All of which has already been pointed out in this thread.


http://www.parliament.uk/about/living-h ... womenvote/

Sorry It just said on the parliament website no women voted in the elections til 1918 while men could



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11 Jan 2017, 3:53 pm

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There's a great deal of projecting and reading between the lines on this board, from people I am certain find the same behaviour abhorrent when practised by others.



I could not agree with you more. :lol:



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13 Jan 2017, 3:28 pm

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Mikah wrote:
All this talk about averages and statistics yet people forget that Eastern Asians and Jews regularly top those tables, far outperforming whites. Yet no talk (at least not from the Left) about Asian Privilege and Jew Privilege. Perhaps, dear virtue-signaling progs, your cross hairs need realignment, or (just between you and me) admit your true motivations.



Asian privilege, is this all Asians? Do people of Philippino heritage have the same privilege as Korean heritage?

How about people of the Hmong heritage, do they have the same privilege as people of Japanese heritage?

I am not even going to touch "Jew privilege", whatever that is.

How do you mean ""out performing whites"? In bed? In the Olympics? At poker? That is a vague statement. Please lay out the specifics.


"I am not even going to touch "Jew privilege", whatever that is."

Why? Can't criticise people with lots of power I guess. Jews are the most privileged ethnic group in the US and 3 of the 4 most richest countries in the world are Asian/Arab, yet all we get poured into us is the myth of 'white privilege'.


First we are talking inside the US.

But, do all white people have power?


Next, the US has 41% of the worlds wealth. Those other three nations you mentioned are not even close.
http://fortune.com/2015/09/30/america-w ... nequality/

Why do you guys always try to hang your arguments on these misleading absolute numbers.


Right and I was talking about inside the US regarding most privileged, but can't say anymore about it as I don't want to get in trouble.

The US as a whole doesn't, just very rich banks and corporations etc. The three I mentioned are the richest countries in the world. The US is around $20 trillion in debt.


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