Website against Asperger's Syndrome: HeartlessAspergers.com

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19 Oct 2017, 1:22 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

Deficits can occur in people with autism spectrum disorders, schizophrenia, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder,[2] cocaine addiction,[3] and brain damage suffered from alcohol's neurotoxicity.[4

so deficits can also occur in other conditions too....
burn in hell Adelyn Birch!! !! !!



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28 Jan 2018, 8:15 am

These types come up a lot when dealing with BPD, too. They're narcissists, plain and simple. Think about it:

-They feel they "deserve", or have a right to be surrounded by a certain "class" of people (usually one they've judged out in their own minds), and not "bothered" by any "others".

-They take mental illness personally. Meaning they see someone with ASD (or whatever weakness they decide to pick on), and their brain immediately goes "Ugh! This is a slight against ME! I am too important for this!".

-They claim to "know" unknowable things (how someone is thinking/feeling in their head, etc), because they're super smart and also very special!

Basically, if you find a narcississm checklist, these people tick every box. They view ASD the way they do because their brains tell them this whole world was made for them (creators of the site) and them alone.

They're the same people who will try to be "edgy" by suggesting people with severe disabilities (e.g-Down Syndrome, cerebral palsey, spina bifidia, etc) should be euthanised at birth. Yes, I've unfortunately met these people.

It honestly comes down to the fact these people see a problem, or see people with a problem, and instead of learning more and trying to fix things that way; they are lazy, and would rather sit around and say "eh, just get rid of 'em all!"

Most people do not feel this way, but its the loudest and most ridiculous group that gets attention.



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30 Jan 2018, 12:53 pm

don't take it too serious there are alot of haters out there
they hate because:
#its naturally fun.
#they were brought up to hate us.
#cause they love to hate on someone or anyone.
#or they were or feel wronged by a aspie. bad relationship, on sympathetic/ empathetic moment.
#they fear Difference

either way these sites pop up all the time. theres just no controlling the trolls, the haters. consider the net the wild west. BTW dont look at the Clearnet. lotta neo nazi sites hate on us


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04 Feb 2018, 1:12 pm

ASD and autism is very hard to comprehend for an NT. And we have trouble appreciating that. So it's easy to see where the misunderstanding can come from and to underestimate how difficult the condition can be for ALL those concerned.

NTs need air time to, to get air their confusion and frustration just like we do.

Have a good look around this site, sometimes it feels like it's only purpose is for those on the spectrum to come on and put down NTs.



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04 Feb 2018, 3:06 pm

You may have trouble appreciating that. I don't, and my ability to perceive people will illwill and hostility (such as that website) is unimpaired. Hate speech is hate speech, I think most people here can recognise it when they see it.



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04 Feb 2018, 6:50 pm

I notice how the website doesn't have a way to contact the website owner. There's no way to know who created that website, or to contact them. So it's certainly hate speech, and cowardly at that.



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04 Feb 2018, 7:30 pm

She tried coming here to post her hate speech. It was a pleasure to despatch her.



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04 Feb 2018, 8:00 pm

It is (rightly) listed on and described for what it is, on the No Hate Speech watchlist site. (Google: "Hate Speech Watch Heartless Aspergers").



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05 Feb 2018, 7:55 am

AspieSingleDad wrote:
I notice how the website doesn't have a way to contact the website owner. There's no way to know who created that website, or to contact them. So it's certainly hate speech, and cowardly at that.


It's probably funded by George Sorros, all part of divide and rule.



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05 Feb 2018, 10:18 am

B19 wrote:
You may have trouble appreciating that. I don't, and my ability to perceive people will illwill and hostility (such as that website) is unimpaired. Hate speech is hate speech, I think most people here can recognise it when they see it.


When i began to look through the website, my immediate thought was that this person had been hurt by someone with AS before. This was confirmed when i read the about the author section. So we are dealing with an emotional motive- tricky!

So lets dissect. The author claims that:
Being in a NT in a relationship with someone with AS can be very difficult, stressful and traumatic
This is further compounded when this is not acknowledged, or worse, denied by activists and the medical profession resulting in a deficit in available support.

Their goal appears to be to raise awareness of the difficulties experienced by people so that others can make an informed decision on entering or continuing a relationship with AS 'sufferer' (in lieu of the belief that a decision to enter or continue well be unsupported.

Some activists want to dispel negative information about the condition. On the surface, this is to gain recognition, equality and fairness.
However, some underhanded types have hijacked these honorable motives in order to have the condition removed from the DSM. Thus, no more benefits and insurance cover.
They are manipulating autism politics to work AGAINST the cause, while seemingly being for it.

A strategic counter to this website would be to help NTs find the right information and support. The author will not be alone in their sentiments.



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05 Feb 2018, 2:58 pm

They briefly came here a while back, with a plan to get real members banned here by making constant reports (didn't work). The plan had been posted on the HA website, and one of our members found it.

You can educate people who have goodwill and want to learn. Hate sites lack both of those factors. Better to use our energy on our own well being I think, than try to educate the unwilling.



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05 Feb 2018, 4:00 pm

This is sad. A sad time we live in. The sad part is the onionnet has afew more. The big question does this site have regular followers and regular hits. Its the spreading im worried about.


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05 Feb 2018, 4:04 pm

Theamazinggeek wrote:
This is sad. A sad time we live in. The sad part is the onionnet has afew more. The big question does this site have regular followers and regular hits. Its the spreading im worried about.


Well, I know Kiwi Farms talks ill about stuff from what they find here. I was spoken about on Kiwi before but that was way back when I used Tumblr. I wouldn't be surprised now if there's some negative posts about me or anyone else based on what some lurkers have taken from here. I don't know how often people talk negatively about us on other sites though.


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05 Feb 2018, 4:32 pm

I notice Kiwi Farm is filled with autistic people, about half of them there seemed to be autistic but they go around and find people who are weirder than them or something and post about them there. If there is no thread of you there (general you) congratulations, you are not weird enough to be on there. They call it LOLcow. I know one of the WP mods goes there because I saw their post and it showed they were a regular member there but that was like a year or two ago so I don't even know if that mod is still active here.

But they also seemed pretty open minded too if you don't come in and whine about their thread they posted about you. One of them came on there and joined and was like "well every one is entitled to their opinion" and explained his normal life to them without complaining about them being ignorant or what they wrote.

I don't know if they all do it to make themselves feel better, people will compare themselves to others who they think are worst off and they feel better about themselves. But sometimes it can be dangerous IMO because then they end up minimizing their problems and not taking their problems seriously because they had seen worse.


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05 Feb 2018, 4:45 pm

Kiwifarms targets people for kicks, and their website is what it is, and they go after specific targets for the "fun" of it. It's best not to post there at all IMO. They rarely target members here, but when they do, they can be very cruel and immature. Best avoided altogether, I think. Malice is a destructive force, on the net and in life. Who needs it?

The crucial difference is that Kiwifarm members are trying to be (and think they are being) funny, it's not the same hatefully malicious stuff that Heartless members post continously, nor does Kiwifarms only target Aspergers - they are more "equal opportunity offenders" with a satirical bent.

I don't think the members there realise that their targeting of the most vulnerable people - people who are clearly very confused and troubled - is as cruel and destructive as it is. They seem to think it is "just for fun" and believe that.

They aren't as consistently destructive as sites dedicated to spreading hatred of AS people (they are more diverse in their targets). Most of them will probably mature a bit in time. I don't think the same can be said of the Heartless Aspergers haters, who are more toxic in their intent and tactics.