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29 Jan 2017, 10:04 pm

Vox Day picked up on this article: ... mps-order/

There are two things not be readily apparent for Americans that are important to know about the action taken by this judge. The first, legal; the second, political.

First, note that the judge’s order blocks immigration authorities for sending people out of the United States “after they have landed at a U.S. airport with valid visas.”

This is an entirely unlawful act by the judge, completely at odds with basic, well-known United States law and, as such, the ruling can be nothing more than naked partisanship, an act aimed at negating a policy disagreed with committed while acting under the color of law.

U.S. visas, of any class, are different from those issued by other countries. They do not confer the right to enter the United States, but the right to present oneself at a Port of Entry (including airports) to ask for permission to enter the United States.

How Can I Use a Visa to Enter the United States?

Having a U.S. visa allows you to travel to a port of entry, airport or land border crossing, and request permission of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Customs and Border Protection (CBP) inspector to enter the United States. While having a visa does not guarantee entry to the United States, it does indicate a consular officer at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate abroad has determined you are eligible to seek entry for that specific purpose. DHS/CBP inspectors, guardians of the nation’s borders, are responsible for admission of travelers to the United States, for a specified status and period of time. DHS also has responsibility for immigration matters while you are present in the United States.

— U.S. Dept. of State, website, webpage “What is a U.S. Visa”

Thus, the entirety of the judge’s order is unlawful and proceeds from an assumption of legal facts about what a U.S. visa is that is wrong. This judge isn’t stupid. She knows this. She knows that the order she issued is unlawful.


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30 Jan 2017, 11:28 am

Clever clogs attorney Jourdan fails to specify exactly what a Green Card stands for.

It's not the Judges who have decided to risk a constitutional crisis.

Screwing over the interpreters who have been aiding our armies in Iraq and Afghanistan seems to me an action without honor. I find it hard to understand how any decent person supports it. Such actions will be remembered and will stain the reputation of the United States for far longer than these provisions hold sway.

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