So I thought Trump was leaving marijuana up to the states...

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25 Feb 2017, 6:39 pm

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I don't care if they make marijuana legal (so people who need the drug for illnesses such as cancer have no problem getting it - cards are available for that though) , but I don't want to be working around anyone who has been smoking it. I hope employers will start drug testing for it.

In school, right now we are studying about how we conduct ourselves outside of the workplace can get our nursing license stripped from us - alcohol, misdemeanor driving offenses, etc. - all have to be reported to the Nursing Board. Why should any other professional jobs be any different?


I also agree with medical marijuana.

And I know for a fact that in many instances, those who work in a STEM industry (science, technology, engineering, math) must pass a drug screen as part of a background check before starting work. Nice to know the people I'm working with are sober enough to concentrate on the job ... because in my case, it does in fact deal with rocket science. 8)

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But one could be quite sober enough to concentrate on the job and still fail the drug test for marijuana. Also for all you know you could be sitting next to a pill head on pills, who used fake piss. Or you could be sitting next to a marijuana smoker who knows not to get stoned for that kind of intensive work who used fake piss because though they don't get high at work they knew they'd still fail.


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25 Feb 2017, 6:42 pm

They periodically raided dispensaries under Obama, I'm not sure what else the feds can really do besides challenging it in court. It's yet to be seen what actions the Trump administration will take, a good indicator of whether or not they intend to interfere with the will of the voters will be how they handle legalized marijuana in DC where congress has ultimate authority over laws. What needs to happen ASAP is the removal of marijuana as a Schedule I drug, that says it has no medical benefit at all and prevents further research in being done.



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25 Feb 2017, 6:44 pm

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I think he is trying to appeal to his "jobs for every American" base. Employers can't hire people who fail drug tests.


Some places don't even bother with drug tests, I have heard some have removed marijuana from drugs they test for...and that aside pre-employment drug tests are just another wasteful drug war policy. I'd be for removing such drug tests altogether actually.

Fighting legal cannabis would be contrary to 'jobs for every American' actually, since it brings in tons of revenue and creates lots of jobs.

Yeah imo drug tests in work are only necessary if you believe someone is on the clock and under the influence of drugs.


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25 Feb 2017, 6:54 pm

Meanwhile. back in DanPatrickStan...

http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article ... 959162.php


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25 Feb 2017, 7:39 pm

Jacoby wrote:
They periodically raided dispensaries under Obama, I'm not sure what else the feds can really do besides challenging it in court. It's yet to be seen what actions the Trump administration will take, a good indicator of whether or not they intend to interfere with the will of the voters will be how they handle legalized marijuana in DC where congress has ultimate authority over laws. What needs to happen ASAP is the removal of marijuana as a Schedule I drug, that says it has no medical benefit at all and prevents further research in being done.


Clinton wanted to change it to Schedule II. Sanders wanted it off the list. They lost.

Congress could change it, but you have to remember that they, despite being historically diverse, are largely a body of old white men. Good luck with that. It hasn't even gotten a hearing in Congress.



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25 Feb 2017, 7:41 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
the_phoenix wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I don't care if they make marijuana legal (so people who need the drug for illnesses such as cancer have no problem getting it - cards are available for that though) , but I don't want to be working around anyone who has been smoking it. I hope employers will start drug testing for it.

In school, right now we are studying about how we conduct ourselves outside of the workplace can get our nursing license stripped from us - alcohol, misdemeanor driving offenses, etc. - all have to be reported to the Nursing Board. Why should any other professional jobs be any different?


I also agree with medical marijuana.

And I know for a fact that in many instances, those who work in a STEM industry (science, technology, engineering, math) must pass a drug screen as part of a background check before starting work. Nice to know the people I'm working with are sober enough to concentrate on the job ... because in my case, it does in fact deal with rocket science. 8)

...


But one could be quite sober enough to concentrate on the job and still fail the drug test for marijuana. Also for all you know you could be sitting next to a pill head on pills, who used fake piss. Or you could be sitting next to a marijuana smoker who knows not to get stoned for that kind of intensive work who used fake piss because though they don't get high at work they knew they'd still fail.


Or, I could be working with the liberal media, who use fake piss to create fake news.



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25 Feb 2017, 7:53 pm

the_phoenix wrote:
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the_phoenix wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I don't care if they make marijuana legal (so people who need the drug for illnesses such as cancer have no problem getting it - cards are available for that though) , but I don't want to be working around anyone who has been smoking it. I hope employers will start drug testing for it.

In school, right now we are studying about how we conduct ourselves outside of the workplace can get our nursing license stripped from us - alcohol, misdemeanor driving offenses, etc. - all have to be reported to the Nursing Board. Why should any other professional jobs be any different?


I also agree with medical marijuana.

And I know for a fact that in many instances, those who work in a STEM industry (science, technology, engineering, math) must pass a drug screen as part of a background check before starting work. Nice to know the people I'm working with are sober enough to concentrate on the job ... because in my case, it does in fact deal with rocket science. 8)

...


But one could be quite sober enough to concentrate on the job and still fail the drug test for marijuana. Also for all you know you could be sitting next to a pill head on pills, who used fake piss. Or you could be sitting next to a marijuana smoker who knows not to get stoned for that kind of intensive work who used fake piss because though they don't get high at work they knew they'd still fail.


Or, I could be working with the liberal media, who use fake piss to create fake news.

So are you still convinced drug testing ensures the people you're working with are sober enough to concentrate on the job? just to point things back in the direction of the topic at hand.


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25 Feb 2017, 8:08 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
the_phoenix wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
the_phoenix wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I don't care if they make marijuana legal (so people who need the drug for illnesses such as cancer have no problem getting it - cards are available for that though) , but I don't want to be working around anyone who has been smoking it. I hope employers will start drug testing for it.

In school, right now we are studying about how we conduct ourselves outside of the workplace can get our nursing license stripped from us - alcohol, misdemeanor driving offenses, etc. - all have to be reported to the Nursing Board. Why should any other professional jobs be any different?


I also agree with medical marijuana.

And I know for a fact that in many instances, those who work in a STEM industry (science, technology, engineering, math) must pass a drug screen as part of a background check before starting work. Nice to know the people I'm working with are sober enough to concentrate on the job ... because in my case, it does in fact deal with rocket science. 8)

...


But one could be quite sober enough to concentrate on the job and still fail the drug test for marijuana. Also for all you know you could be sitting next to a pill head on pills, who used fake piss. Or you could be sitting next to a marijuana smoker who knows not to get stoned for that kind of intensive work who used fake piss because though they don't get high at work they knew they'd still fail.


Or, I could be working with the liberal media, who use fake piss to create fake news.

So are you still convinced drug testing ensures the people you're working with are sober enough to concentrate on the job? just to point things back in the direction of the topic at hand.


In my current contract assignment, I would say yes.

I do remember a curious incident years ago when I was at a different company. Right in the middle of the work day, all of a sudden, security came and personally escorted a guy out, allegedly for drug use. He lost his job immediately. I'm not sure how the company arrived at the conclusion that the guy had been using drugs.

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26 Feb 2017, 1:46 am

the_phoenix wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
the_phoenix wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
the_phoenix wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I don't care if they make marijuana legal (so people who need the drug for illnesses such as cancer have no problem getting it - cards are available for that though) , but I don't want to be working around anyone who has been smoking it. I hope employers will start drug testing for it.

In school, right now we are studying about how we conduct ourselves outside of the workplace can get our nursing license stripped from us - alcohol, misdemeanor driving offenses, etc. - all have to be reported to the Nursing Board. Why should any other professional jobs be any different?


I also agree with medical marijuana.

And I know for a fact that in many instances, those who work in a STEM industry (science, technology, engineering, math) must pass a drug screen as part of a background check before starting work. Nice to know the people I'm working with are sober enough to concentrate on the job ... because in my case, it does in fact deal with rocket science. 8)

...


But one could be quite sober enough to concentrate on the job and still fail the drug test for marijuana. Also for all you know you could be sitting next to a pill head on pills, who used fake piss. Or you could be sitting next to a marijuana smoker who knows not to get stoned for that kind of intensive work who used fake piss because though they don't get high at work they knew they'd still fail.


Or, I could be working with the liberal media, who use fake piss to create fake news.

So are you still convinced drug testing ensures the people you're working with are sober enough to concentrate on the job? just to point things back in the direction of the topic at hand.


In my current contract assignment, I would say yes.

I do remember a curious incident years ago when I was at a different company. Right in the middle of the work day, all of a sudden, security came and personally escorted a guy out, allegedly for drug use. He lost his job immediately. I'm not sure how the company arrived at the conclusion that the guy had been using drugs.

...


I think it would make sense to drug test someone if there is reason to believe they are high on the job, but pre-employment drug testing just makes it harder for people who use cannabis at all to get jobs. Granted there are some jobs where it may not be as important like I have certainly gone into headshops with employees getting stoned on the job but that would be different then the sort of work you describe or work involving any heavy or dangerous equipment.


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26 Feb 2017, 2:14 am

Here in Washington state where pot had been legalized by popular vote, the governor and state attorney general are preparing to fight Trump on this issue, too.


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26 Feb 2017, 2:31 am

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Here in Washington state where pot had been legalized by popular vote, the governor and state attorney general are preparing to fight Trump on this issue, too.


Well same in Colorado, not sure about the governor but at least the people of Colorado.


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26 Feb 2017, 2:36 am

nurseangela wrote:
I don't care if they make marijuana legal (so people who need the drug for illnesses such as cancer have no problem getting it - cards are available for that though) , but I don't want to be working around anyone who has been smoking it. I hope employers will start drug testing for it.

In school, right now we are studying about how we conduct ourselves outside of the workplace can get our nursing license stripped from us - alcohol, misdemeanor driving offenses, etc. - all have to be reported to the Nursing Board. Why should any other professional jobs be any different?


Medical or not, even possessing this sh!t should carry a life sentence in federal prison. I have to cart around a pothead, who's also a drunk. I have told him time and time again I don't want booze of any kind or the herb anywhere near me or my car. I can't stand the smell of either. I've even thrown him out of my car a few times when he starts drinking or he lights up. I put up with his antics because the building contractor I'm also carting around because of a DUI he got needs him to complete several maintenance jobs he has lined up with 3 different property management firms. I'm still catching hell from the pothead for not being able to transport him or the contractor to wherever they needed to be last week because the timing belt broke on my car, costing me almost $700.00 to fix. I'm now catching hell from my brother and his wife since I had to borrow money from him to get the car fixed, and had to borrow her Jeep to get around for a week. (She's not working, and they have 2 other cars, so why is she bitching? It comes down to everybody is always right, and I'm always wrong, AGAIN.)

I also feel that if you're stupid enough to overdose on opioids, because you're addicted, you don't deserve Narcan: YOU DESERVE TO DIE! I don't care if you're a bum, or the CEO of IBM or GE, see the previous sentence.

I'm damn sick and tired of catching hell from everyone for incidents that are out of my control and I have no control over. Can someone please direct me to a cave where a huge boulder can be rolled over the entrance, so I never have to communicate with or even see another person for the rest of my miserable life?



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26 Feb 2017, 2:39 am

nurseangela wrote:
I don't care if they make marijuana legal (so people who need the drug for illnesses such as cancer have no problem getting it - cards are available for that though) , but I don't want to be working around anyone who has been smoking it. I hope employers will start drug testing for it.

In school, right now we are studying about how we conduct ourselves outside of the workplace can get our nursing license stripped from us - alcohol, misdemeanor driving offenses, etc. - all have to be reported to the Nursing Board. Why should any other professional jobs be any different?


That's really paranoid & rather antagonistic of you. I work on demand as a consulting software developer & sysadmin. I've worked in bioinformatics & medical instrumentation. That wouldn't have been possible without medical marijuana. If you actually want to know what you're discussing, you're welcome to ask me.


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26 Feb 2017, 2:42 am

Feel free to call my friend 'pothead' while she's wrapping up her particle physics degree. She'd throw you out of her house.

That's no different from us calling either of you geezers. Back up.


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26 Feb 2017, 2:46 am

So am I correct in assuming none of you save for Sweetleaf know about designer drugs? It's easily possible to get more inebriated than marijuana or even a whole bottle of everclear with some compounds & practically none of those will ever show up on any kind of drug test.


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Meistersinger wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I don't care if they make marijuana legal (so people who need the drug for illnesses such as cancer have no problem getting it - cards are available for that though) , but I don't want to be working around anyone who has been smoking it. I hope employers will start drug testing for it.

In school, right now we are studying about how we conduct ourselves outside of the workplace can get our nursing license stripped from us - alcohol, misdemeanor driving offenses, etc. - all have to be reported to the Nursing Board. Why should any other professional jobs be any different?


Medical or not, even possessing this sh!t should carry a life sentence in federal prison. I have to cart around a pothead, who's also a drunk. I have told him time and time again I don't want booze of any kind or the herb anywhere near me or my car. I can't stand the smell of either. I've even thrown him out of my car a few times when he starts drinking or he lights up. I put up with his antics because the building contractor I'm also carting around because of a DUI he got needs him to complete several maintenance jobs he has lined up with 3 different property management firms. I'm still catching hell from the pothead for not being able to transport him or the contractor to wherever they needed to be last week because the timing belt broke on my car, costing me almost $700.00 to fix. I'm now catching hell from my brother and his wife since I had to borrow money from him to get the car fixed, and had to borrow her Jeep to get around for a week. (She's not working, and they have 2 other cars, so why is she bitching? It comes down to everybody is always right, and I'm always wrong, AGAIN.)

I also feel that if you're stupid enough to overdose on opioids, because you're addicted, you don't deserve Narcan: YOU DESERVE TO DIE! I don't care if you're a bum, or the CEO of IBM or GE, see the previous sentence.

I'm damn sick and tired of catching hell from everyone for incidents that are out of my control and I have no control over. Can someone please direct me to a cave where a huge boulder can be rolled over the entrance, so I never have to communicate with or even see another person for the rest of my miserable life?


tl;dr You're unwilling to fix a timing belt/find a better car.


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