The Autism Separatism Discussion Thread

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I think this person is saying that a grudge against how he was treated by "NT's" is, at least partially, behind the OP's desire for "autism separation."

I think probably a better albeit less ambitious idea is to bring those on spectrum together to form friendships, relationships, and do group activities together. It's out of that a community is built, you can't talk separatism when so many of us are so isolated from any sort of community. After you turn 18 there isn't much out there.

I see what you're saying. Folks would complain about how NTs bully them, and the others on WP would join in with them in "NT bashing". That was common as dirt around here (not so much now though).

And there have been a smaller number who talk about an all autistic country, or some such nonsense.

I would like to get a discussion going about the concept of the autism spectrum representing the beginning of a distinct new species of human that is more advanced - cognitively superior than the current one - however controversial that might be. I would like for those on the spectrum to share their thoughts on why they agree or do not agree.

I am a high functioning autistic person who considers himself to have above average intelligence and in my view people on the autism spectrum constitute a separate, distinct, and superior subspecies of human. I have periodically read these forums for over 10 years without posting and find it distressing that a vast majority of the discussions center around autism being something bad and people pitying themselves for our differences. We will never realize our potential if this does not change. Over time with more and more knowledge and experience I would have thought that by now there would be a concrete realization that autism is representative of the natural evolutionary process that takes place in a species. There is nothing to feel bad about. We are not defective in any way. Quite the opposite, actually. We are evolving. Autism is the beginning stage of evolving into a new, advanced form of human. Distinct from the current human race. And it is time to separate. It all makes perfect sense.

Bacteria to fish. Fish to reptiles. Reptiles to warm blooded mammals. Warm blooded mammals to Neurotypical humans. And now, Neurotypical humans to us, which are currently called people with "autism" (we need a name for our new species). As I'm sure you are well aware, the neurotypical mind has many severe flaws and our cognitive differences are intended to be an update to what is at this point an ancient, archaic design. The neurotypical mind was an amazing development for it's time 200,000 years ago. Just like the Ford Model T was an amazing car for 1908, but you wouldn't want to keep using it well into the future. Likewise, We shouldn't want to continue to be neurotypicals in the future. It's time to adapt and advance. We've reached the natural end of neurostandard cognition. As it stands now, neurostandard humans won't make it any further then where they are at. They won't colonize space. They won't even make it to mars. Too distracted by social media, too busy fighting, thinking up new ways to oppress each other with self destructive behavior. Always thinking short term and not seeing the bigger picture. They went to the moon 48 years ago but don't even currently have a spaceship that can take them into space. I say them because I do not consider myself to be one of them. The differences that people on here constantly talk about needing to overcome, make us not them. I just feel hindered by neurotypicals, held back. Our cognition and their cognition are different to the point of incompatibility. Our daily interactions with them prove that. The solution is not to become depressed that we are not neurotypcials and don't understand their socialization rules of conduct, we must separate ourselves from them and move forward. The extinction of neurostandard humans is assured and we must ensure our own survival. That starts with us waking up and stop feeling pity for ourselves.

We're just different then neurostandard humans. Why anyone would think that is a bad thing is beyond me. Our brains are running beta software. So there will be bugs, it's not fully developed yet. Apes just didn't wake up one day as Neanderthals, it's a process that takes time. That's what we are going through. Embrace it, be proud of what we are. The sensory issues some experience that inhibit our lives would not be an issue if neurotypicals were extinct and our entire environment, culture and technology were built from the ground up for the autistic mind. In a purely autistic society we would create technology suited for us which would eliminate any of the "problems" associated with being autistic. Being 27 feet tall would be an issue simply because the doorways are built for people who are Ft and under. If you built an environment where all the doors are high enough, this "problem" is no longer a problem.
What makes things worse is how misinformed the general public is about autism and the negative depictions displayed in mass media. I tell some people I'm autistic and they start acting as if I don't know up from down. If you search for autism on the internet you mostly see information about autism being a horrible disorder that needs to be cured, and that autistic people need help to live their lives. The superiority of being on the spectrum needs to be espoused. We're significantly more intelligent. The general public needs to be made aware of the real truth behind autism and where we stand, not the info that is currently being put out in mass. We should be revered not sent to a doctor for treatment. From what I've read on here I see that some autistic people themselves do not agree that autism is superior. I would like to ask why you feel that way. Neurotypical society is on the verge of complete collapse. Do you think a nation of autistic people would have the same problems that neurotypical society has? The answer is clearly no. Share your thoughts on this.

I would like to get a discussion going about the concept of the autism spectrum representing the beginning of a distinct new species of human that is more advanced - cognitively superior than the current one - however controversial that might be. I would like for those on the spectrum to share their thoughts on why they agree or do not agree.

I am a high functioning autistic person who considers himself to have above average intelligence and in my view people on the autism spectrum constitute a separate, distinct, and superior subspecies of human. I have periodically read these forums for over 10 years without posting and find it distressing that a vast majority of the discussions center around autism being something bad and people pitying themselves for our differences. We will never realize our potential if this does not change. Over time with more and more knowledge and experience I would have thought that by now there would be a concrete realization that autism is representative of the natural evolutionary process that takes place in a species. There is nothing to feel bad about. We are not defective in any way. Quite the opposite, actually. We are evolving. Autism is the beginning stage of evolving into a new, advanced form of human. Distinct from the current human race. And it is time to separate. It all makes perfect sense.

Bacteria to fish. Fish to reptiles. Reptiles to warm blooded mammals. Warm blooded mammals to Neurotypical humans. And now, Neurotypical humans to us, which are currently called people with "autism" (we need a name for our new species). As I'm sure you are well aware, the neurotypical mind has many severe flaws and our cognitive differences are intended to be an update to what is at this point an ancient, archaic design. The neurotypical mind was an amazing development for it's time 200,000 years ago. Just like the Ford Model T was an amazing car for 1908, but you wouldn't want to keep using it well into the future. Likewise, We shouldn't want to continue to be neurotypicals in the future. It's time to adapt and advance. We've reached the natural end of neurostandard cognition. As it stands now, neurostandard humans won't make it any further then where they are at. They won't colonize space. They won't even make it to mars. Too distracted by social media, too busy fighting, thinking up new ways to oppress each other with self destructive behavior. Always thinking short term and not seeing the bigger picture. They went to the moon 48 years ago but don't even currently have a spaceship that can take them into space. I say them because I do not consider myself to be one of them. The differences that people on here constantly talk about needing to overcome, make us not them. I just feel hindered by neurotypicals, held back. Our cognition and their cognition are different to the point of incompatibility. Our daily interactions with them prove that. The solution is not to become depressed that we are not neurotypcials and don't understand their socialization rules of conduct, we must separate ourselves from them and move forward. The extinction of neurostandard humans is assured and we must ensure our own survival. That starts with us waking up and stop feeling pity for ourselves.

We're just different then neurostandard humans. Why anyone would think that is a bad thing is beyond me. Our brains are running beta software. So there will be bugs, it's not fully developed yet. Apes just didn't wake up one day as Neanderthals, it's a process that takes time. That's what we are going through. Embrace it, be proud of what we are. The sensory issues some experience that inhibit our lives would not be an issue if neurotypicals were extinct and our entire environment, culture and technology were built from the ground up for the autistic mind. In a purely autistic society we would create technology suited for us which would eliminate any of the "problems" associated with being autistic. Being 27 feet tall would be an issue simply because the doorways are built for people who are Ft and under. If you built an environment where all the doors are high enough, this "problem" is no longer a problem.
What makes things worse is how misinformed the general public is about autism and the negative depictions displayed in mass media. I tell some people I'm autistic and they start acting as if I don't know up from down. If you search for autism on the internet you mostly see information about autism being a horrible disorder that needs to be cured, and that autistic people need help to live their lives. The superiority of being on the spectrum needs to be espoused. We're significantly more intelligent. The general public needs to be made aware of the real truth behind autism and where we stand, not the info that is currently being put out in mass. We should be revered not sent to a doctor for treatment. From what I've read on here I see that some autistic people themselves do not agree that autism is superior. I would like to ask why you feel that way. Neurotypical society is on the verge of complete collapse. Do you think a nation of autistic people would have the same problems that neurotypical society has? The answer is clearly no. Share your thoughts on this.

Autism makes me extremely withdrawn and nonverbal.

Autism keeps me from being able to outside by myself without getting lost.

Autism causes me to stim excessively.

Autism causes me to have frequent sensory overload meltdowns or shutdowns sometimes to the point of autistic catatonia.

Autism keeps me in special edition because I can not handle a mainstream curriculum.

I have to be looked after like a small child due to my autism.

That's what autism is. Not everyone who is autistic has to be as impired as I am. But autism is a neurological and cognitive disorder. Not the next step in human evolution.



I think it's a coping mechanism or denial or whatever. A fantasy of being superior rather than disabled. I usually only see stuff like this posted by the extremely high functioning.