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20 Mar 2017, 8:07 pm

Among the bombshells overnight that have left Trump’s White House scrambling for answers are the allegations his campaign staff colluded with the Russian government to win the November election as well as the FBI totally discrediting Trump’s allegation that former president Barack Obama wiretapped his phone.

THE public inquiry into Donald Trump’s possible links to Russian meddling in the US election has only just begun, but in some quarters, the verdict is already in.
“You would have to say this is the worst and most perilous day of Donald Trump’s young Presidency,” CNN’s political analyst Gloria Borger concluded within hours of the House Intelligence hearings starting overnight.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv ... b18cbaf097

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20 Mar 2017, 8:24 pm

Here is the Ranking Member of the Committee Adam Schiff's opening statement:

and the transcript:

http://time.com/4706721/comey-hearing-a ... ranscript/

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20 Mar 2017, 8:51 pm

I wonder how Fox sees this.

I wonder how NPR sees this.

I'd like to see some objective reporting about this.

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20 Mar 2017, 8:56 pm

Nothing was discredited

you folks are cheering on the swamp

also its already been said a bunch of times that there is no evidence of collusion

this is all going to blow up in their faces

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20 Mar 2017, 8:59 pm

If Nunes sees Trump and gang's activities as being worthy of investigation, I would start worrying for Trump's Presidency.

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20 Mar 2017, 9:06 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I wonder how Fox sees this.

I wonder how NPR sees this.

I'd like to see some objective reporting about this.

Are you implying that NPR is the equivalent of Fox?

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20 Mar 2017, 9:07 pm

I smell an impeachment in the near future. If it does happen, does Pence become president or will there be a new election and can we get rid of everyone Trump appointed especially DeVos and Pruitt?

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20 Mar 2017, 9:22 pm

Aspiegaming wrote:

I smell an impeachment in the near future. If it does happen, does Pence become president or will there be a new election and can we get rid of everyone Trump appointed especially DeVos and Pruitt?

New election? No, you'll just have 4-8 with Pence and I'm sure you'll find reason to hate him even more.

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20 Mar 2017, 9:23 pm

Impeachment for what? :lol: Any removal from office would amount to a coup, the deep state needs to be purged ASAP!

'This will surely be the end Trump" increasing nervous man says for 500th time

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20 Mar 2017, 9:49 pm

Not at all. I see Fox as relatively conservative, and NPR as relatively neutral.

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20 Mar 2017, 10:32 pm

Raptor wrote:

Aspiegaming wrote:

I smell an impeachment in the near future. If it does happen, does Pence become president or will there be a new election and can we get rid of everyone Trump appointed especially DeVos and Pruitt?

New election? No, you'll just have 4-8 with Pence and I'm sure you'll find reason to hate him even more.

Oh I already did years before he was VP.

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20 Mar 2017, 10:41 pm

Oh o.k. I would characterize Fox as more than just relatively conservative. Fox is the messaging arm of the conservative movement.

I have my problems with Politifact but this is still pretty telling.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/

Quote:

Statements made on FOX
True 17 (10%)
Mostly True 20 (12%)
Half True 31 (19%)
Mostly False 35 (21%)
False 49 (29%)
Pants on Fire 15 (9%)

If you get the chance and are interested I suggest you check out the film The Brainwashing of My Dad. It is actually a very good history of how Fox News started and how its biased and often false reporting effects it's viewers and even other news networks.

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20 Mar 2017, 10:45 pm

cyberdad wrote:

I can't really envision what type of collusion with the Russians could have tipped the voters in Trump's favor.

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20 Mar 2017, 10:47 pm

If the Trump campaign is guilty of colluding with the Russians than it stands to reason that Pence is equally guilty. He was the head of the transition team after all.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/10/politics/ ... ting-firm/

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Trump transition knew of Flynn's pro-Turkey lobbying before White House appointment

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washing ... story.html

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Jared Kushner met with Russian ambassador during transition, White House official says

Like I said, if Trump is guilty than so is Pence.

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20 Mar 2017, 11:18 pm

that isn't a crime

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21 Mar 2017, 4:31 am

What's the most likely outcome if it is found Trump worked with the Russians to help influence votes and win the election?

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