Terrorist attack outside UK Parliament in London

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24 Mar 2017, 3:59 am

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The usual scapegoating going on where innocent muslim and Asian passers by are criticised for not stopping to help the injured.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-23/l ... im/8379874



I wonder how many people would actually stop to look at the victim or help them? Plus it looked like he was already getting help. Yes other people walked by and not stopping either and no one batted an eye. I am glad other people stood up for her when she was being singled out and pathologized.


Also if there's already loads of people around him her going over and gawking is completely unhelpful. She was better off talking to emergency services on the phone or going over to police or ambulance to inform them.



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24 Mar 2017, 7:29 am

Thought I'd share this in case others haven't seen it already. Andrew Neil's tribute to the policeman Keith Palmer: nail on the head!


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24 Mar 2017, 5:09 pm

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I would think the fact that the guy wasn't a mastermind makes it even more scarier since how can prevent an attack like this?


Try peaceful means with the Muslim world?


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24 Mar 2017, 5:16 pm

crystaltermination wrote:
Thought I'd share this in case others haven't seen it already. Andrew Neil's tribute to the policeman Keith Palmer: nail on the head!



Sorry, but it's the same old tripe. Maybe he should think about how his beloved Tories are cutting the police force apart. Westminster is not the 'heart of our democracy', it's the heart of all the evil this country does, the heart of the terrorism we commit across the world. Parliament is full of people who don't give a flying f**k about the people that voted them in and they work for the war industry that has lead to terrorism across the world.


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24 Mar 2017, 5:17 pm

Also, Churchill was a scumbag.


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24 Mar 2017, 10:26 pm

Very important essay by Ayaan Hirsi Ali on countering political Islam:

http://www.hoover.org/research/how-coun ... ical-islam

From 9/11 until now, the dominant Western response to political Islam has been to focus only on “terror” and “violent extremism.” This approach has failed. In focusing only on acts of violence, we have ignored the ideology that justifies, promotes, celebrates, and encourages those acts. By not fighting a war of ideas against political Islam (or “Islamism”) as an ideology and against those who spread that ideology, we have made a grave error.

If Islamism is the ideology, then dawa encompasses all the methods by which it is spread. The term “dawa” refers to activities carried out by Islamists to win adherents and enlist them in a campaign to impose sharia law on all societies. Dawa is not the Islamic equivalent of religious proselytizing, although it is often disguised as such by blending humanitarian activities with subversive political activities.

Dawa as practiced by Islamists employs a wide range of mechanisms to advance the goal of imposing Islamic law (sharia) on society. This includes proselytization, but extends beyond that. In Western countries, dawa aims both to convert non-Muslims to political Islam and to bring about more extreme views among existing Muslims. The ultimate goal of dawa is to destroy the political institutions of a free society and replace them with strict sharia. Islamists rely on both violent and nonviolent means to achieve their objectives.

Dawa is to the Islamists of today what the “long march through the institutions” was to twentieth-century Marxists. It is subversion from within, the use of religious freedom in order to undermine that very freedom. After Islamists gain power, dawa is to them what Gleichschaltung  (synchronization) of all aspects of German state, civil, and social institutions was to the National Socialists.


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24 Mar 2017, 10:45 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Also, Churchill was a scumbag.

Wow! we actually agree on something John ;)



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26 Mar 2017, 4:35 pm

Some things will just forever be a mystery I guess. :roll:

Westminster attacker acted alone and motive may never be known, say police

Police investigating the Westminster attack have concluded that Khalid Masood acted entirely alone for reasons that may never be known.

In the most detailed breakdown yet of events on Westminster Bridge and parliament on Wednesday, police said that the entire attack, in which Masood had killed four people before being shot dead, lasted a mere 82 seconds.

After four days of intensive inquiries across England and Wales, involving hundreds of officers, the Metropolitan police said they had so far failed to establish the reason for the attack.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... cted-alone


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