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25 Mar 2017, 8:01 am

I came to this website to learn about ASD as my GF had a suspicion that I might have it. Since joining I have had information overload about what I think my issues are. Recently it has transpired that I may have OCD traits especially intrusive thoughts which I initially put down to ASD. I now also suspect I may have ADD as well. I have not had a Dx of any of these issues apart from anxiety & depression . Does anyone know if it is possible to have OCD and convince yourself you have ASD & ADD as well , I know these are sometimes comorbids of ASD but how likely is it that OCD might be messing with my mind ( I used to think I was schizophrenic but I have been told I don't have it ) , somedays it feels feasable , other days I feel like a hypochondriac.


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25 Mar 2017, 8:50 am

Exactly what do you mean by "intrusive thoughts." I could look that up, but I have no idea whether what I read would match what you meant.



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25 Mar 2017, 9:57 am

BTDT wrote:
Exactly what do you mean by "intrusive thoughts." I could look that up, but I have no idea whether what I read would match what you meant.


intrusive thoughts for me are thoughts or anxieties that revolve around being judged or percieving that I am being judged , my mind tells me it a conspiracy against me but I know it's not , this usually leads to lots of rumination about my mental health and ultimately ends with suicide ideation. I know most people find suicidal thoughts distressing but it's wierd I find them almost welcoming & comforting.


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25 Mar 2017, 10:28 am

Interesting. In my case I often don't think enough about what other people think. From what I've read there are other Aspies like me.



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25 Mar 2017, 10:38 am

This is one of those things that is best to work out with a therapist, if possible for you. Intrusive thoughts can and will present differently in different people. For me, part of my intrusive thoughts is a complete understanding that the unwanted thoughts are not only completely insane, but they cause me significant distress. I do not find them comforting in the least. One of my intrusive thoughts involves semi trucks. If I am in a car, driving down the road and I see a semi, I get this chatter in my head that tells me over and over, "Drive head on into it. Just plow right into that thing. How will it feel? Will I feel it? What will it sound like? Will it make a sound? Drive into it." I can then 'feel' the truck plow through me as I drive past it. It messes me right up and I get worried one day I will actually drive head on into a semi. I know I won't, but I still worry I will. See? Crazy and distressing.

For me that is a huge factor in figuring out what the thoughts are from... ie: the obsessive thoughts I get that are mixed up in my ASD stuff are not in the least discomforting, in fact, I find comfort in them, feed, water, and nurture them, like the case with interests. With my interests, which I also dub obsessions, since I get so nutty over them, I really do like them even when I know I am going overboard and piss a whole day away engaging in such activities.

That said, OCD intrusive thoughts often have a basis in insanity for people... a fear they are going crazy or will go crazy. So in that way it is very possible that thinking/believing/convincing yourself that you have x y or z disorder is well within the range of possibilities. OCD is also a pretty common comorbid with people on the spectrum. It's all kinda tricky to figure out. Whatever you do or don't have going on, I do wish you well in it and hope you can get it figured out.


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25 Mar 2017, 10:43 am

BTDT wrote:
Interesting. In my case I often don't think enough about what other people think. From what I've read there are other Aspies like me.


I thought for the longest time I didn't care what other people thought about me ( apart from the anxieties ) but I have come to realise I have real problem with percieving that anyone thinks something bad of me ( he's insane etc ). I definately have a lot of Aspie traits but obviously these can overlap with OCD & ADHD etc , I'm not convinced I'm an Aspie but if I am I don't believe my problems stem from it , it's the depression , anxiety issues that are my problem. I know there is a chance that my issues are comorbids due to being an Aspie but who knows. I'm currently waiting on a DX for ASD and hopefully this will point me in the right direction if I don't have ASD, I may be pinning too much hope on an ASD specialist to know what's wrong if I don't have ASD.


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25 Mar 2017, 11:05 am

dossa wrote:
This is one of those things that is best to work out with a therapist, if possible for you. Intrusive thoughts can and will present differently in different people. For me, part of my intrusive thoughts is a complete understanding that the unwanted thoughts are not only completely insane, but they cause me significant distress. I do not find them comforting in the least. One of my intrusive thoughts involves semi trucks. If I am in a car, driving down the road and I see a semi, I get this chatter in my head that tells me over and over, "Drive head on into it. Just plow right into that thing. How will it feel? Will I feel it? What will it sound like? Will it make a sound? Drive into it." I can then 'feel' the truck plow through me as I drive past it. It messes me right up and I get worried one day I will actually drive head on into a semi. I know I won't, but I still worry I will. See? Crazy and distressing.

For me that is a huge factor in figuring out what the thoughts are from... ie: the obsessive thoughts I get that are mixed up in my ASD stuff are not in the least discomforting, in fact, I find comfort in them, feed, water, and nurture them, like the case with interests. With my interests, which I also dub obsessions, since I get so nutty over them, I really do like them even when I know I am going overboard and piss a whole day away engaging in such activities.

That said, OCD intrusive thoughts often have a basis in insanity for people... a fear they are going crazy or will go crazy. So in that way it is very possible that thinking/believing/convincing yourself that you have x y or z disorder is well within the range of possibilities. OCD is also a pretty common comorbid with people on the spectrum. It's all kinda tricky to figure out. Whatever you do or don't have going on, I do wish you well in it and hope you can get it figured out.


I am on the waiting list for a therapist so hopefully that will help.

I do get the thoughts about driving into oncoming traffic but it is not distressing for me , I role play in my mind the whole event. This doesn't happen all the time and is usually sparked by seeing an oil tanker, I know this stems from playing a video game ( which I was addicted to ) where the object of the game was to crash and cause as much devastation as possible. I often tend to plot the best trajectory to hit a vehicle to cause a chain reaction , I would never actually do this as I don't want to hurt other people.

I think the reason I find suicide thoughts comforting is that I have had them for so long , they are like an old friend coming to visit , they are only dangerous to me because I have planned it so much in my head it only takes a psychotic breakdown for me to act on it.

I know that whatever is wrong is not a simple diagnosis as noone has ever told me what is wrong with me apart from anxiety & depression.


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25 Mar 2017, 11:52 am

I'm diagnosed with ASD, ADHD-pi, OCD, Social anxiety, and BPD.


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25 Mar 2017, 4:23 pm

Noca wrote:
I'm diagnosed with ASD, ADHD-pi, OCD, Social anxiety, and BPD.


Thats a lot of D's :lol:

If you don't mind me asking a few questions
What were you Dx with 1st and how old were you?
How long did it take to get all your Dx's?
Which would you say is the hardest to deal with?
Do you see or see different medical proffesionals about each Dx or seperate proffesionals?
Is the treatment the same for all the Dx?
I have also read that some meds for OCD could make your ASD worse , is there any conflict between your treatment?


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