Do you think high functioning autistics/Aspies have ....
That's diagnosed vs undiagnosed.
Point is, HFA is/was more likely to be diagnosed, and therefore HFAs are more likely to get help than Asperger's.
I was rather rushed when I wrote that post, so sorry for not being clear.
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That's diagnosed vs undiagnosed.
Point is, HFA is/was more likely to be diagnosed, and therefore HFAs are more likely to get help than Asperger's.
HFA and Asperger's are the same thing.
That's diagnosed vs undiagnosed.
Point is, HFA is/was more likely to be diagnosed, and therefore HFAs are more likely to get help than Asperger's.
HFA and Asperger's are the same thing.
As you know, before DSM 5 they classified as seperate, mainly because of the speech delay. And that common people also thought AS was higher functioning because of the DSM seperation (at least in my experience). So if you didn't have the speech delay, you were at a disadvantage for getting help. In my case, I was having worse executive functioning than the HFA kid, but still no one suggested that I get tested or anything.
But I was just telling an anecdote. AS vs HFA isn't the point of this thread.
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They did, yes. It was a mistake which they've realised and fixed. People on WP, who are up to date and completely aware of this, still cling onto this misconception from the 90s. I don't get it.
And yet it will keep coming up every time people put a slash because people still want to separate them.
That's diagnosed vs undiagnosed.
Point is, HFA is/was more likely to be diagnosed, and therefore HFAs are more likely to get help than Asperger's.
HFA and Asperger's are the same thing.
As you know, before DSM 5 they classified as seperate, mainly because of the speech delay. And that common people also thought AS was higher functioning because of the DSM seperation (at least in my experience). So if you didn't have the speech delay, you were at a disadvantage for getting help. In my case, I was having worse executive functioning than the HFA kid, but still no one suggested that I get tested or anything.
But I was just telling an anecdote. AS vs HFA isn't the point of this thread.
Also it said in the AS criteria there was no delay in self help skills or any other developmental delay other than social. So that meant those who were diagnosed with AS but had troubles with executive functioning didn't still get the help they needed to the degree they needed. So the merging thing is to help aspies get the help they needed because they discovered aspies have the same symptoms as those who do with classic autism and have all the same symptoms as they do.
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I had to go through all kinds of hell and back just to get diagnosed and then even after that trying to live a normal life was like one huge fight. Most people my age have completed and graduated from high school, have been to college, and have cars and real jobs. I don't. I'm lucky to even have my own apartment. I actually have fewer privileges than most people, I'm a 12-year-old trapped in a woman's body and I feel really, really stupid.
They did, yes. It was a mistake which they've realised and fixed. People on WP, who are up to date and completely aware of this, still cling onto this misconception from the 90s. I don't get it.
And yet it will keep coming up every time people put a slash because people still want to separate them.
I don't support the seperation. But the DSM makers did. It affected the lives of a lot of us. But now it's fixed, and hopefully it won't be seperated again.
I don't know if you're implying that I want to seperate them. I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just unsure. I've been really rushed today, and maybe it is affecting communication.
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Life ... that's what leaves the mess. Mad people everywhere.
They did, yes. It was a mistake which they've realised and fixed. People on WP, who are up to date and completely aware of this, still cling onto this misconception from the 90s. I don't get it.
And yet it will keep coming up every time people put a slash because people still want to separate them.
I don't support the seperation. But the DSM makers did. It affected the lives of a lot of us. But now it's fixed, and hopefully it won't be seperated again.
I don't know if you're implying that I want to seperate them. I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just unsure. I've been really rushed today, and maybe it is affecting communication.
Why make the distinction in your post?
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**** no, it's been more of a curse. To be 'lower functioning' and I guess less aware of your own condition. Just trying to 'blend in' is emblematic of the pain and constant ostracization, I think someone higher functioning will experience more discrimination in their day to day life than someone universally recognized as disabled.
They did, yes. It was a mistake which they've realised and fixed. People on WP, who are up to date and completely aware of this, still cling onto this misconception from the 90s. I don't get it.
And yet it will keep coming up every time people put a slash because people still want to separate them.
I don't support the seperation. But the DSM makers did. It affected the lives of a lot of us. But now it's fixed, and hopefully it won't be seperated again.
I don't know if you're implying that I want to seperate them. I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just unsure. I've been really rushed today, and maybe it is affecting communication.
Why make the distinction in your post?
Because BeggingTurtle said
BeggingTurtle has "other autism spectrum disorder" in his profile, and I remember that he said he spoke quite late, so I conclude he is a classic autistic according to DSM 4. (Either that or pdd-nos) And that he's saying it was easier (in his experience) for him, a classic autistic, to recieve help than the Aspies he knows. He made a distinction right there. So I told a story from my life that corraborated his life experiences.
Whether I liked it or not, the seperation in the DSM was there, but now it's fixed.
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